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Stopping benzo binge w/ no withdrawls

shpongle1987

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So for the past moth or so ive been hanging with my buddy and have been taking alot more klonopin and xanax then normal....nothing too crazy though. Somedays id get 6mg ok kpins in me but usually kept it around 4mg, and other days id go without until i found some xanax. So ive decided to chill with the benzos because i can start to feel the ole crave mechanism going off so my question is this; Could i prevent from going into withdrawals by taking one 2mg xanax xr for the next two days? Mind you i dont want to get high i just want to ween comfortably...and really dont want to go to my doc and tell him so dont say it :/ hah
 
you have to be more specific in order to help you, were you using every day? and for how long? did you take days-off in between doses?
 
i was using mostly klonopin and yes i took days off inbetween sometimes, this went on for about a month
 
Its still not really clear how much you have been taking, for how long and how regularly, we aren't here to judge you for using, it would be a huge hypocrisy on part anyhow;)

A month is kind of borderline as far as dependence goes.
 
A month of benzo use is nothing, even if it were moderately high doses. You might experience some rebound anxiety and insomnia but nothing serious.
 
Maybe I'm just cautious but if I'd been using everyday for a month I would not stop CT, why would you make life more difficult for yourself than you need to?

Tapering down is always going to be a better and safer option even if the taper is fairly short.
 
A month of benzo use is nothing, even if it were moderately high doses. You might experience some rebound anxiety and insomnia but nothing serious.

Personally I went through hellish withdrawals after less than a month of use, but it was daily use at high doses (equivalent to maybe 15-25mg alprazolam per day). Muscle spasms, brain zaps, paranoia (including delusional thoughts about everyone being out to get me), anxiety, insomnia, irritability, sexual dysfunction, lack of mental focus.

Depending on how seriously you took the word 'binge', and your body chemistry, you may get away with nothing or mild symptoms, or it might actually be pretty unpleasant.
 
If you have got availability to the pills to allow you to taper down slowly then why not do that, what harm can it do?
 
first off thank you every one for the responses. Based on what ive felt today from only 1mg xr xanax i have a feeling I will be just fine. I feel like the main thing for me is just to keep myself busy and doing physical work. But then again well see what happens when the last of this xanax runs out :/ I get Neurontin 600mg #60 on the 14th so as long as i can make it till then im golden :)
 
^^ sounds like you got off lucky
Benzo wd's can be hell for a lot of people but I guess everyone's different.

to the OP: you shouldn't end up too bad but tis tough to say. if possible try to extend the taper a bit. 2 days might be cutting it a bit short but I understand if you don't want to be using multiple days to keep the urger down to keep using. I think you'll be alright with your plan, as stated earlier, maybe some insomnia issues and a bit of anxiety but it shouldn't be terrible.
 
Get some Valium with score marks and slowly titrate off it. Or get some Etizolam and see if that helps. Little withdrawl.
 
People may not think so but even with a month of benzo use daily you will have withdrawals. Your taper shouldn't take long but benzos are a bitch in that sense.
 
I really don't have much of an issue with WDs or negative side-effects from dosing between 30 and 50 mgs usually of clonazepam in 2-3 weeks, then stopping. I've been scripted 2mg of clonazepam a day (60 mgs for 30 days of course) for about 9 months, but always sell/trade a portion of my script resulting in at least a week off from using any benzos. Yeah, I may not sleep as well (I have sleep problems, so this is the primary cause for this) and have an easier time becoming anxious, but it's hardly what I call a WD (I've WD'd from a variety of substances, though never benzos, they can build a physical dependence pretty slow if you dose in such a way). I really am not a big fan of being scripted benzos, especially with having a methadone dependence (30mg/day), due to the threat of a terrible WD and neuromodulation, so I try to only dose 2-3 weeks a month (try to keep my doses below 6mg [max] - it's not like benzos are very recreational imo anyway, especially clonazepam). I feel that if I was scripted alprazolam I may feel a little bit more potential WD effects due to way shorter half-life (esp with a build up of clonazepam plasma concentration over a few days), or if I was scripted diazepam I may as well due to the very long half-life, potentially resulting in a build up of levels in the plasma (keeping the diazepam in the body with out having to necessarily dose once again - similar to methadone). I may exhibit the same lack of WD effect even if I was using some other benzos instead, I dunno.

Basically I feel one can avoid negative effects from cessation of benzos easier than opioids or even amphetamine if one takes breaks after even daily use for over a week, doesn't take doses of ridiculous levels (ridiculous doses can rapidly sensitize receptors causing a massive increase in tolerance, longer period of time till elimination), doesn't chase a particular feeling/high (like thinking one has to have euphoria with a amphetamine dose for it to be considered to be working [therapeutically for ADHD], so they keep upping the dose), etc. I can be clean of opioids, dose one for a week daily, jump off and hit WDs pretty bad, but even with a tolerance built already with benzos (almost the same with opioids [higher for opioids]), a week of daily use (can be dosed multi times in the days) will not produce any WDS unless my doses are stupidly high if I jumped off. Even amphetamines will end up with me being depressed with some suicidial thoughts after a weeks use. I'm very thankful of this attribute with benzos, as in my current place in life, benzos are useful therapeutically in combo with methadone, but I don't want to be on them for to long or gain a dependency. I'll probably substitute the benzos for weed at night a few times a week down the road, but thats not a possibility at the moment.
 
For me Benzo withdrawal always began with just a little sluggish,weird and jittery days immediately after taking a mixture of xanax and klonopin for a month or so, high dosages though, 2-16mgs per day. Mostly on average 8mgs. The real suffering kicked in after about 5 days. Thats when It can get scary. Paranoia something awful, i consider it to be like going through horrible opiate wd's while having a terrible lsd trip. Go to the emergency room and be honest if you start to have funny tastes, smells, auras in your peripheral vision. These are signs of a quickly approaching seizure. If you are alone and have the seizure you could be in big trouble. Death or permanent brain damage. So while you might think you're good to go, you're body is just waiting to be fed its benzos, when it doesn't get them, all hell breaks loose.
 
Just wanted to add something...i honestly dont remember how much i was doing at the time this post was made but i think i may have made it look like i was doing a bit more then i was....I mean i know i went thru 2 klonopin scripts 90 pills each and xanax on the side all in a months period so i was going pretty good but i dont think it was enough to give me horrible withdrawls, or even withdrawls in general for that matter. I know that it is a really bad idea to stop benzos cold turkey, ive done it while on a 10mg a day habit with xanax and i was hallucinating, couldnt sleep, hearing voices,teeth hurt like a bitch,hated everyone, the sun hurt my eyes so bad i couldnt go outside...ect. Im lucky i didnt have a seziure at the time but it still doesnt mean it wont happen next time...
 
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