"stop the world. i want to get off"

[sexwivgerbils]

Jesus loves u!

 

[GenericMind]

hahahahahaha

 

[StagnantReaction]

So is this a call to establish the bluelight commune or what?

 

[vegan]

maybe you should give an example so i understand how you are not allowed to live peacefully.

in the first post, i mentioned for example "people put their tv at high volume at any hour of day or night"

that's referring to my neighbours... and those i had in my last apartment... and is exactly the same matter as with the people who deliver stuff for the market in my street and start working at 5am but shout like they're the only living beings in the city...

it may seem trivial but it's not
because most people have this attitude in everything they do : they totally disregard others' interests and poison others' lives with this selfish behaviour

and like i said, this is only one of thousands ridiculous examples of bad cohabitation, but when we get to the attitude of the authorities, it gets very serious
i doubt that you find normal that you could be stripped of your freedom for deciding to take a drug without bothering anyone
well, others not only will tell you what they want you to do, but they will also put you in jail if you don't do so
and if you're in the wrong country, they'll put you in jail for saying what you think
and if you're in the "good" country, they'll make sure no one can hear what you have to say. the town government voted a new fascist law here. people tried to demonstrate against it... they just sent the cops to stop the demonstrations. and i live in a "democracy of the first world"

funny you should look down upon killing with such an avatar.

would you have killed hitler if given the choice, to avoid the death of millions of innocents?
different facial hair, similar case

 

[GenericMind]

Humanity isn't as advanced as you want it to be. There's not really much else to say.

True equality and unlimited freedom simply don't apply yet. You can rant, demonstrate, or preach all you want but you have to accept that worldwide change is a slow progression and you probably won't live long enough to see the world that you want.

 

[socko]

and if you're in the "good" country, they'll make sure no one can hear what you have to say. the town government voted a new fascist law here. people tried to demonstrate against it... they just sent the cops to stop the demonstrations. and i live in a "democracy of the first world"

Do you ever go to city council meetings (hopefully htey're open to the public where you live)? What about forming some kind of neighborhood association? You seem outspoken about your views, so maybe you and some like-minded friends could get together and make your voices heard by doing these things. Maybe you could bring about some change.

 

[rowland2110]

when i walk down the street, try to dodge someone who wasn't looking, say "sorry" when he bumps into me even though it was his fault, and get an insult in return, he's not exactly keeping the problem to himself

Oh i agree. Humans love to vent thier inner issues on other people. I for one am totally beyond this behavior though. 8)

Anyway, his issue wasnt with you, it was something else. Yes it is upsetting and yo didnt deserve it. But the best you can do is let it go and try to move on. Otherwise the vent keeps on hurting you.

 

[mariacallas]

^^so true.

***Life has no other discipline to impose, if we would but realize it, than to accept life unquestioningly. Everything we shut our eyes to, everything we run away from, everything we deny, denigrate or despise, serves to defeat us in the end. What seems nasty, painful, evil, can become a source of beauty, joy and strength, if faced with an open mind. Every moment is a golden one for him who has the vision to recognize it as such.***

~Henry Miller

 

[L2R]

"us
and
them
and after all
we're only
ordinary men"

vegan, everyone is guilty of these kinds of things. What's fine with you may annoy others, vice versa and so on.

Instead of saying "they", how about replacing it with "we"? With this in mind, it could replace your anger towards others with motivation for yourself to lead by example.
Well, it helps me.

 

[vegan]

^^ it's not anger that i feel
(or maybe just towards myself for not being able to fit into this world)

it's a sentiment of not belonging here

i can't say "we" instead of "they" because the very point of this thread was to tell how foreign i feel to this society
and one of the things that makes it so hard for me to identify with other people is in fact that whereas i always try not to bother others (=give the example, since i'm aware that respecting others is the base of a good cohabitation), a lot of people never have a second thought for others

i'm aware that "what's fine with me may annoy others"
but i don't really get annoyed by others for random trivial reasons
although people on BL may imagine otherwise, i am as tolerant as a human being can be. as long as you don't walk on others' freedom
you can do whatever you want with your life, i don't care and i won't criticize you
on the other hand, i just have to listen to my friends to see that "what may annoy others" usually rates from "subjective" to "plain stupid"

 

[L2R]

man, i totally hear you. I used to have a saying: "the more people i meet, the lonlier i become."
At times, it'd really get to me, especially when (a couple of years ago) i was indulging in semi regular party substances. Enhanced by such activities, i had become a nervous wreck with occasional emotional outbursts. Now, even though the strength of such emotions i attribute to chemical use, it still only enhanced what i was feeling underneath: a massive exasperation and disappointment with the seeming retardation i could see practically everywhere.
Very much like the character of Frank Grimes in the Simpsons

"This whole plant is insane i tell you. Insane!"

This is almost the exact reasons i got my forearms tattoos

Now these things i still see, quite regularly, but i pay little emotional energy towards them. It's just the way it is, and the best i can do is try to lead by example, occasionally question stupidity, and continue giving my love and support to those around me despite knowing full well that eventually many of these people will disappoint me at some stage.

Do you wish for some sort of cataclysmic event of social upheaval in order to set our priorities straight?

I quite often do.

 

[socko]

You've just got to learn not to give a shit about people's rudeness.

 

[elemenohpee]

wow L2R, who would have thought I would have agreed with you so wholeheartedly on something Now I just need to work on getting to where you are in terms of emotional detachment. Intellectually I see how ideal your attitude towards things are, and I agree that the only thing to do is keep a positive attitude and lead by example, but I can't help but get riled up by these things. I think a little bit of maturity and a letting go of naive idealism will go a long way for me in terms of a healthy relationship with the world.

 

[L2R]

Yeah it'll come with time. How many times can you headbutt a wall before your head starts to hurt too much? Or before you realise that it's not a wall you're butting, but other people, your friends or loved ones?

 

[Medatripper Tates]

some look at life more through the heart, while others through the mind. these naturally conflict because they are like opposites.

The fourth method is for those who have a very developed heart, who are loving, feeling types, emotional. BLESSED ONE, AS SENSES ARE ABSORBED IN THE HEART, REACH THE CENTER OF THE LOTUS. This method can be used only by heart-oriented persons. Therefore, understand first what is a heart-oriented person. Then this method can be understood.

With one who is heart-oriented, everything leads to the heart, everything. If you love him, his heart will feel your love, not his head. A head-oriented person, even when loved, feels it cerebrally, in the head. He thinks about it; he plans about it. Even his love is a deliberate effort of the mind.

A feeling type lives without reasoning. Of course, the heart has its own reasons, but it lives without reasoning. If someone asks you, "Why do you love?" if you can answer why, then you are a head-oriented person. And if you say, "I do not know, I just love," you are a heart-oriented person.

Even if you say that someone is beautiful and that is why you love, it is a reason. For a heart-oriented person, someone is beautiful because they love him. The head-oriented person loves someone because he is beautiful or she is beautiful. The reason comes first, and then comes love. For the heart-oriented, love comes first and then everything else follows. The feeling type is centered in the heart, so whatsoever happens touches his heart.

http://www.totallyok.com/secret/016r.htm

 

[Portillo]

The world can be quite pathetic indeed, i understand that sex is fun but socialising is not as satisfying as it seems.

 

[StagnantReaction]

Do you wish for some sort of cataclysmic event of social upheaval in order to set our priorities straight?

I quite often do.

The best solution I can offer in my lifetime is to kill off all of the idiots that keep such an event from happening. Hopefully they'll do this themselves, though..

 

[L2R]

The Darwin awards are accepting nominations now. Stand out in your community and you may be the next "Darwin Award of the Year"!

Make your parents proud. Make your country proud. Make your neighbours dog PROUD!

 

[GenericMind]

The best solution I can offer in my lifetime is to kill off all of the idiots that keep such an event from happening. Hopefully they'll do this themselves, though..

Who exactly would be entrusted to decide whose an idiot and whose not? The last time we had a group of people deciding which people were worth keeping around and which weren't was in the 1930s and 40s.

 

[L2R]

i don't think he was serious.