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Stimulants and attraction/confidence

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gordonfreeman

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I've been using alot of RC stimulants lately, stuff like PEA, MDPV, etc, mostly I use these when I am working, I work as a programmer and usually once a week i'll take something and i'll get 2-3 days worth of work done in a single day. I also take these occasionally on weekends when I want a break from the usual party drugs like mdma.

One thing i've noticed is that I become really attractive to women when I am on these. For instance yesterday I went into a shop and flashed the lady at the register a smile and said hello, she gave me this really sensual look and was staring at me while I was looking through the racks of clothes, I went up to the register to pay and she was totally flirting with me. Unfortuantly the manager or someone called her out the back for some reason before I could get her number or anything. Actually I was kind of a little bit shocked because this lady was maybe 10-15 years older than me and was absolutely stunning so I kind of botched the situation.

Stuff like this happens all the time when i'm on stimulants, I haven't usually taken advantage of the situation because i've been in a long term relationship but now i've broken up I want to take full advantage :)

Its not just sexual attraction as well, times when i've been out at parties on bars on PEA, people come up and talk to me all the time, several times people have said things like, "hey your that dj that plays at (insert famous club)" or "I've seen you on tv before". I was at a bar the other night and almost had to show a guy my drivers license to prove to him that I wasn't someone who is on a comedy show in my city.

I guess its because i'm exuding some kind of super confidence, I think i'm reasonably confident, alittle reserved but still feel confident in who I am. I just find it almost comical how much people are attracted to me when i'm on these stimulants and would like to know how I can extend this into when i'm sober!
 
You are referring to phenethylamine and MDPV in the same sentence? Weird to say the least - are you sure you are not someone testing BL?

In any case - self confidence is a huge part of being attractive to others and the more one attracts other people and the more positive feedback one gets as a lover the more that confidence can be maintained and utilized. It's sort of a self-fulfilling thing.

What you describes sounds as much like misunderstanding social interactions while euphoric and spun to me though. And use of these stims over time is far more likely to decrease your sober functioning and diminish your life and self-confidence than to improve same.

The best road to true self-confidence is to be willing to be totally UN-self-confident and just be your insecure self. People who learn who they are and accept themselves fully are far more confident than people attempting to act out roles they think are expected of them. Real people are rare and are highly attractive....
 
MDPV has a similar mechanism of action to cocaine, a substance notorious for inflating the ego and causing hypomania. Like others have alluded to already, exuding confidence usually results in various "self-fulfilling" positive feedback loops socially. I'd also guess you're imagining things to a large degree. For example, being on a stimulant won't get you mistaken for a famous DJ or a TV personality alone. Simply looking however you do has a lot more to do with it.

You may insist these flattering experiences really do happen more on stimulants, but experiences that inflate the ego, such as an attractive woman flirting with you or a stranger perceiving that you're famous, will pump you up even more on something like MDPV. The intensity of these experiences while high compared to sober primes the mind to make selective memories. That is, without realizing it you likely preference the memory of the ego inflating experiences you have on stimulants over those you have sober, and thereby mistakenly perceive that the frequency of these experiences during stimulant use is much higher than while sober. There may also be a component of wishful thinking at work in that if you really believe these substances make you more attractive then that means you have chemical tools you can exploit to your advantage. Be careful because this is how psychological addiction begins.

As far as this socially attracting aspect of the drugs really does change the way others perceive you, it probably owes mostly to differences in the way you carry yourself and project your personality compared to how you do while sober. Just be self-aware of these overt differences while you're high and mimic them while sober. Mimicking confidence also results in positive feedback loops, just in the reverse direction, i.e., from looking confident to feeling confident, rather than from feeling confident to looking confident. Don't try to make all the changes at once or you'll be too busy thinking about how you look and end up looking awkward and overly self-conscious (you know, like those people that struggle to lean on anything they can find in order to project nonchalance but really just look like they're going to tip over?).
 
I did some llello the other night, my friend had some, and I totally noticed it - I got these 2 really gorgeous gypsy gals to come for a drink with me & my mate the other night after flashing them a grin, a hunter's gaze and a bounce in my step. That's there most of the time anyways now, but I certainly notice it on le cocaine.

Couldn't really comment regarding other substances - I try to stay away from stimulants stronger than ginseng/caffeine, apart from once/twice a year.
 
I have not tried those specific stimulants you are talking about but I have found that stimulants make me more confident. Even caffeine does, a small bit.
How you can extend this confidence to while you're sober? I'm not really good at doing this myself - but stop thinking and just do things. Don't get nervous about smiling at someone, just do it. Just say hi to someone, don't worry about whether or not you should. That kinda thing.
 
Yeah I've never really had a problem going on dates with women.. I'm easy to talk to. But when I was using Meth in the past I did notice more people wanted to talk to me whether it was at the grocery store or while driving it seemed like women had something to say.. were curious. I don't know.. 'twas nice! I think because I took the time to spike my hair and pluck the shit out of my eyebrows to make them look nicer? Who knows.. maybe I had that bad boy look while I was on the dope.. whatever it was I do miss it sometimes! Try not to think about it though because it just makes me crave it!
 
Maybe its the using that is jacking up your self esteem and you are carrying yourself about different.

Self confidence is a huge turn on to women, as well as men, but women especially.

I do not think it is the drug so much as how you are acting while on it. That being said maybe you do not realize how you carry yourself about.

I personally am rather confident and was not always. Once I gained self confidence it was far easier to find a date.
 
Stay away from stimulants and sexual experiences . Whilst they heighten the orgasm and force and duration of the ejaculation I find that most addiction centers look past the sex addiction that goes hand in hand with these.
 
I def remember the confidence gained from drugs.
I was lucky enough that I took that confidence with me when I sobered up.
I'd say that drugs and alcohol did my personality a world of good.
 
let me just say that most of everyone will feel a surge of confidence when taking the drug of their choice

whether that confidence is real, imagined, or somewhere in between only you at your most self-aware can possibly know
 
stims=eventually you burn out and feel shit

amps/meph/coke any of them really.

not sustainable long term, best kept to a few times a year at most.

amp/coke gives you a big ego and the feelings of self esteem to go with it. when you run out you are left with a big ego and shit self esteem and thats very unattractive. so there you go
 
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