Stimulants Stimulant tolerance = messed up

[Scrofula]

Amphetamines will do the same things no matter if they come in an amber plastic container or a clear plastic baggie.

100mg/day is half a point of the finest, purest dextroamphetamine currently available, pumped out of your own red blood cells. Depending on the exact trials you were in, they ramped you up pretty fast, too. I wouldn't be surprised if you told everyonearoundyouseveraltimeshowyouweren'tfeelinganythingspeedyatallwhatsoever.

They also didn't hold you there for long, and a drop from 100 to 70 is only a third.

A more blunt way to put what I said before: they can make a non-snortable, non-IV amphetamine, but it's still amphetamine, and you had your dose cut in half, after being on it for years. You don't like the new low dose. Worse, you were probably pretty young most of those years, the jello still jiggling in your brainpan. I at least have some benefit in having a dried-out brain turning back into the dust you shake out of the jello packet.

Or, it's possible, maybe you have some special unique brain chemistry that can only take 100mg/day, otherwise all your neurons flip around backwards somehow. That's a thing that happens to other amphetamine XR or IR users or methylphenidate users or meth smokers--but only when they have to cut back. No one ever gradually makes it up to 70mg/day and says, "no, take me back down to 35mg, wait, y'know what, put me on Straterra instead."

I'm not saying you're lying, or calling you an addict, I'm not blaming you for your meds no longer working, I'm blaming an industry that continues to find ways to give the same stuff they'll put me in prison for having in my pocket, into kids' lunchboxes and call it medicine.

That's how these substances work, I know from multiple first-hand experiences. They own your mind, your emotions and all your best reasoning skills, and tell you anything you need to hear to believe you need to be back where you were, or preferably with a little more.

 

[Sebastiana718]

I knew what you were saying. I agree completely. I was actually in the clinical trial for a little over a year and went from 30mg to 100mg in about 4 months. (And I was mainly in the trial because I hated Adderal and my MD was was an "ADHD specialist" who, in reality knew exactly who & what he was.) I was in my early-mid 30s then, now I'm 41. The thing that's the strangest to me though is that even taking up to 120mg now doesn't give me any kind of 'rush' sensation. But I'm also in the process of having bariatric surgery after being in a wheelchair for 3.5 years with a crushed ankle. In that time, I gained 105 lbs. I'm sure that contributes to the equation as well. Even though I can finally walk again as of 2017 I'm now in LA where to go anywhere you have to drive. (Previously I lived in San Francisco from '95-2016 and never had to drive anywhere, and got a substantial amount of exercise daily.) There are a few other boards here on bluelight where people are discussing going up to 320mg without feeling it. But from what I gather, each of their posts say they took a moth off at most. I took six months off after being on 70mg from 2009-2016 and then once I had the 40 mg dose, I only took it once a week or so in double or triplicate. But as I said, without any real "meta"physical results, inasmuch as that can apply.

I know what you're saying though. There were many years that I had very pure glass - never snorted it, never smoked it, never injected it. Just put it in capsules and swallowed it and went to work. (It was pretty much the only thing that made work during those years bearable.) But into graduate school my thought process really did zoom out in a hundred different directions at once, never being able to totally finish any single one completely and thus the Vyvanse. Nonetheless, I hear you. And thanks for the input.