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- for those of you who undestand this question -
List from best to worst in your personal opinion.
Meth/D-amphetamine = a
Piperazines = b
Caffeine = c
Cathinones (methylaminorex/methcat) = d
Cocaine = e
Mine goes: A,D,E,B,C
what stimulants did i miss?
 
I don't think 4-methylaminorex is anything like methcathinone, structurally or otherwise. I haven't used it, but I think it's unfair drawing a comparison between the two substances.
 
This has been done before, but oh well...
[shittiest] caffeine -- ephedrine -- ritalin -- pemoline -- cocaine -- adderall -- dexedrine -- methamphetamine [best]
Haven't done ice or meth-cat so I can't say for those.
 
"I don't think 4-methylaminorex is anything like methcathinone, structurally or otherwise. "
Actually it is.
 
Really? Just by looking at the structure of methcat it looks like the experience should be somewhat similar to ephedrine, but then again I've never done it, and structures can a lotta times be extremely misleading. What aspects of methcat and methylaminorex would you find similar? I'm really curious about this.
 
I think i am wrong in retrospect, as meth-cat is a ephedrine derivative (2-(methylamino)propiophenone)while 4-methylaminorex is made from PPA. Methylaminorex is probably most closely related to Cylert (pemoline). Yet, for some reason I was under the impression that the two had some distant relationship.
 
I think i am wrong in retrospect, as meth-cat is a ephedrine derivative (2-(methylamino)propiophenone)while 4-methylaminorex is made from PPA. Methylaminorex is probably most closely related to Cylert (pemoline). Yet, for some reason I was under the impression that the two had some distant relationship.
 
Least enjoyable to most ejoyable:
nicotine, cocaine, caffeine, ephedrine, BZP/amphetamine(they feel exactly the same to me), methamphetamine, MDMA
 
Worst to best for me (only the ones i've tried)
Caffeine, Ephedrine, Cocaine, Ritalin, BZP/Adderal (i cant tell much difference between the two)
 
interesting, yaesutom... several of my friends have said the same thing about the BZP/amphetamine likeness. Nearly identical, except for the taste(burning plastic?)...
 
Yeah regarding BZP, i have yet to have the "flu symptoms" or "toxic feelings" that <some certain> few people on drug message boards talk about. Along with the 20-30 or so friends/other people that have tried BZP in my area. I take it 2-3 times a week, i notice a cross tolerance with Adderal, but not with ritalin.
The only after effect i ever noticed was that my pupils would sometimes be dialated the next day after use, but after using it 2-3-4 times a week for a long time now, that effect has totally gone away. I have a friend who takes two 200mg capsules each work day, and then more on the weekend, for quite a long time now.
I also notice, that it seems to work *better* (or just stronger) if i take it along with a big meal. I am currently seeing a doctor for my "add", i definitely prefer taking a bzp before class than a couple ritalin's (i only had a small amount of adderal to try). After about 4-5 hours the BZP wears off and i can get to sleep just fine.
I'm wondering, is there any definite PROOF that BZP is "toxic"? There are those few that claim it "IS" toxic, but i have searched and searched and cant find any info that would indicate that i'm causing more damage to myself than i would be taking the equivalant amphetamine/d-amphetamine dose. Of course its a research chemical (very popular in switzerland i guess?) and no one really knows much about it unfortunately.
Sorry I did kind of go a little off the topic here, discussing BZP, but since it was mentioned.. i just gotta say i LOVE the stuff :)
 
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