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Stimulant for really long hours driving

Kolmogorov

Kolmogorov

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Say that you had two options: either desoxypipradrol or amfepramone, both ad libitum. What would you rather take for driving something like 16 hours, virtually non-stop? I can't realy compare them, since I'm only reasonably experienced with the former. Hmmm, perhaps this is not ADDish enough to be here... Ah, almost forgot, that is supposed to be something done chronically, over many years.

Yes, I know, not good. Had a patient once who took amfepramone in that way for decades. He´s kidneys didn´t like that. Ops, ranting. Sorry
 
neither,
I would suggest modafinil because in studies by the USAF, it has been shown to reduce the motor and co-ordination deficits caused by sleep deprivation. So unlike the dopaminergc stimulants mentioned modafinil enables you to maintain performance rather than just thinking you are maintaining performance and consequently wrapping your car round a tree.
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living in this big brown land of ours I frequently do 14-18hr trips in one go! I have experimented with many, many stimulants and to be honest I now opt for the simple red bull & pseudoephedrine!

Driving that long is hard enough - have done it plenty of times straight to know the toll on the mind & body! Using powerful stims will give you a very exciting drive however the after effects aren't worth it if you have to function at the end...ie work! I find a red bull every hour and 60mg of pseudo every 3-4hours will keep you alert on the road yet will allow you to be sane at the end!

Dont underestimate some good tunes and the chance to be alone with your thoughts to get you through!

I actually quite enjoy a long roadie alone!

I also find that taking the more powerful stims will urge me on to drive faster...over take that car...and the next...and the next....faster...faster.......oh crap! blue flashing lights 8o ;)
 
vecktor said:
neither,
I would suggest modafinil because in studies by the USAF, it has been shown to reduce the motor and co-ordination deficits caused by sleep deprivation. So unlike the dopaminergc stimulants mentioned modafinil enables you to maintain performance rather than just thinking you are maintaining performance and consequently wrapping your car round a tree.
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Modafinil is the shiz. It was banned in Australia not long ago so I doubt I'll see it ever again but it's buzz was like an enjoyable slightly watered down version of meth without any sort of harsh comedown.
 
Yes, I agree with you, modafinil would be superior. Well, now I guess I will have to explain myself. The fact is that here on my beatiful country truck drivers abuse amfepramone massively (so massively than the abovementioned guy destroyed both kideneys and eyes with less than 50 years, something than you can only achieve with a ridiculously severe hypertension).

I don´t now how they get it, as this drug stands in our Schedulle II classification. But, in almost any roadside gas station that you stop by, if you can get away with your truck driver disguise, you´ll score some of this. And is very very cheap as well. So, I was just thnking in some harm reduction that had to involve something also very cheap to work out.

But I feel an imense sympathy for these guys, they are forced into work schedules even more cruel than ours :\
 
I also find that taking the more powerful stims will urge me on to drive faster...over take that car...and the next...and the next...
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So true... That´s why lately if I feel that there is a need for road tweakage, I´ll go with some flavor of methylphenidate, as it makes me very oversealous about velocity and cops.. And saves me a lot of money :)
 
college_dropout said:
Modafinil is the shiz. It was banned in Australia not long ago ....
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are you sure? not according to my pdoc! I believe its marketed as Modavigil in Aus and still approved for narcolepsy! Its also being researched for a possible ADHD Med!
 
I came across modafinil only this year and i nicknamed it to instant coffee.
it helped me to uplift my mood after some poor 3 hrs of sleep and i could work as usual, maybe a bit better. good mood, good performance. lasted the whole day.

actually works much better for me than redbull or coffee
 
I certainly have not heard about modafinil being "banned" in any country. It seems pretty unlikely, as it is probably the safest stimulant out there. Modafinil shouldn't even be scheduled--the only reason it is scheduled in some of the anal countries is the fact that it is called a stimulant (realistically, caffeine would probably be scheduled if it were recently invented and had no history as an "acceptable" food/drug).

Also, I think diethylcathinone is Sch. IV, not II, making it a little easier for truck drivers to obtain. I guess the fact that ethylcathinone is more potent as an NA uptake inhibitor than a DA uptake inhibitor is the reason it causes hypertension in high doses.
 
You're right. Scratch that. It's prescription only.

My contact for it said that Customs got real shitty with him last time he tried to import it.
 
While the 2-DPMP might be good in the sense of not having to re-dose, having never tried 2-DPMP i am not sure how the quality of the stimulation produced compares to that of tenuate. So, in this sense it may not be entirely about duration. An oral dose of 4-MAR could be effective, as it tends to cause less physical stimulation/jitters than amphetamine and to a lesser extent methylphenidate (and its relatives). The least amount of stimulation that is still effective is probably the best bet in this case...
 
Riemann Zeta said:
I certainly have not heard about modafinil being "banned" in any country. It seems pretty unlikely, as it is probably the safest stimulant out there. Modafinil shouldn't even be scheduled--the only reason it is scheduled in some of the anal countries is the fact that it is called a stimulant (realistically, caffeine would probably be scheduled if it were recently invented and had no history as an "acceptable" food/drug).
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I really don't hope that you consider Germany as "anal country" but Modafinil was for some mysterious reason banned until one month ago over there...Schedule I of german anti-drug-law. Thankfully, it was but isn't anymore.
 
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Fighting sleep while keeping awareness?

Modafinil is the obvious cheap, safe, proven and tested answer.

No toxic damage, no harsh comedown. Just pop a low-dose (50mg will do) and ride away.

Forget about those CNS stimulants with anti-depressant effects, etc.

The basic, safe, proven way to reset your internal clock is modafinil.
 
MurphyClox said:
I really don't hope that you consider Germany as "anal country" but Modafinil was for some mysterious reason banned until one month ago over there...Schedule I of german anti-drug-law. Thankfully, it was but isn't anymore.
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Do you have an official reference for Modafinil not scheduled in Germany any more?
 
Modafinil had less of a stimulatory effect on me than even ephedrine and is a worthless drug for me. I would suggest either methamphetamine or Bontril, a prescription anorectic.

Bontril (phendimetrazine, I think) is less intense and euphoric than many other stimulants, but it would give you just enough stimulation to drive well for many hours and, for some reason, doesn't make one as delusional after staying up for 3 days in a row like meth probably would.

Amphetamine, methylphenidate, coffee, or methamphetamine will all work quite well for this purpose, I think. It sucks that it's such a pain in the ass to obtain these stimulants (except for caffeine, which is ubiquitous).
 
Changes that came into effect on the 1st of March 2008:

http://www.buzer.de/gesetz/8104/index.htm

„Amfetaminil", „Butobarbital", „Cyclobarbital", „Fencamfamin", „Mazindol", „Mefenorex", „Meprobamat", „Metamfetamin", „Methaqualon", „Methyprylon", „Modafinil", „Phenmetrazin", „Secbutabarbital" and „Vinylbital" were taken out of appendix II.

And as far as Modafinil is concerned, the official reason to remove it from being a controlled substance ist found here (government page):

http://www.bmg.bund.de/cln_040/nn_1...eilungen/Presse-1-2008/pm-23-1-08,param=.html

"Ein Stoff (Modafinil) wird aus dem Anwendungsbereich des BtMG herausgenommen, weil das Abhängigkeitspotential als gering eingeschätzt wird."

That means: "One substance (Modafinil) has been taken out of the scope of the application of the BtMG (the name of the "controlled substances law" in Germany), because the risk of addiction is regarded as low."

I hope that helps.
 
LOL...I wanted to post exactly the same...

Yo, the quotation above cites it perfectly right: Modafinil was deleted from Appendix III, BtmG, becoming effective from 1st of march, 2008.

Nice!
 
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