Stims can't keep me up.

[The Network]

I can fall asleep any amount of time, 20 minutes, 2 hours, 5 hours, etc after consuming more than 300mg of pure caffeine powder. Pseudoephedrine, while not particularly stimulating to most people, it often does keep people up, I can fall asleep after having a normal cold-medicine-usage dose. I have tried ritalin before, same thing, fall asleep whenever. I've never tried any super hardcore ones like coke or mephed, but those are fucking stupid unless you want to die so I don't plan on that. In fact, some of these things have a tendency to sedate me. What the hell is wrong with me?

I don't feel stimulated either, it's not just that I can fall asleep, it feels either as if I hadn't taken it or as if I'd taken a sedative.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

It sounds to me like you have narcolepsy. I recommend speaking to a sleep doctor.

Either that, or you're really really sleep deprived and have gotten to the "micronap" phase.

Both of these things are potentially dangerous, so best bet is to speak with a medical professional as soon as you can.

 

[OpiYum]

Yo when i was really depressed stims didnt affect me. Have u eaten well? Taken vitamins? Do u have adhd?

anyway consider it a blessing to sleep rather than have insonmia. have u abused drugs in the past? maybe ur body is repairing itself.

things will change the way you want them to be or whats good for u...

 

[The Network]

I don't think it's narcolepsy, I don't fall asleep at abnormal times, it's just that I can easily fall asleep. For example; if I didn't get enough sleep the night before and I take a high dose of a stim, it doesn't have any effect on my 'awakeness'. They do everything else they do, in some cases tachycardia, in some paranoia, etc.

And OpiYum, I don't know if it's a coincidence or if you've followed my other threads.. But if that's true for you, maybe it is for me, I'm a lot more depressed than you can imagine right now. But nah I've never been one to even recreationally use drugs that much, so it almost certainly isn't that, the only thing I've done is pretty much 420 a few times a month at most. I don't consider it a blessing, I've had insomnia and it's not half as annoying as falling asleep in the middle of an important class... But that's just me.

I DO have ADHD, I know they treat that with stims(amphetamines) and that often actually calms them down, but I wouldn't think it would be as extreme as 300mg of caffeine is like smoking a big bowl of good chronic in terms of sedation. And I haven't required "treatment" for it for probably 6 years, it seemed to fade away on its own. Am I mistaken? Could that still be it?

 

[Mr Blonde]

If I haven't eaten properly I find stimulants like caffeine or ephedrine seem to burn out my energy supply quickly and I feel sedated. With caffeine it usually takes a couple of hours, with pseudoephedrine though it makes me feel sleepy right away, no matter what I have eaten!

I didn't have the same problems with methamphetamine or methylphenidate though.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

I DO have ADHD, I know they treat that with stims(amphetamines) and that often actually calms them down, but I wouldn't think it would be as extreme as 300mg of caffeine is like smoking a big bowl of good chronic in terms of sedation. And I haven't required "treatment" for it for probably 6 years, it seemed to fade away on its own. Am I mistaken? Could that still be it?

I know some people who are prescribed dextroamphetamine for ADD/ADHD, and while their dextroamphetamine does calm them down, they certainly aren't able to sleep on it. It simply focuses their attention on one thing, which makes them more calm. The stimulant effects are still there (lack of appetite, insomnia, etc).

I still think you should speak to your doctor.

 

[The Network]

"Hey doc, I take 400mg of caffeine a day, along with some other stimulants that are far more dangerous, what can you prescribe" That won't work too well . The doctors around here are the type that won't prescribe anything to anyone or give anyone advice on drugs unless they pretty much need them to live. It's fucked up.

This is most likely completely unrelated, but I have horrible circulation. It could be bad circulation to my brain I guess but I'd still think stimulants would do something. Like sitting here in a 75ºF room, my hands are probably 55º or colder... It's really messed up.

 

[fryingsquirrel]

What kind of caffeine tolerance do you have? I could sleep easily on 300 mgs of caffeine (and do). I only took an high dose of pseudoephedrine once, and it made me sorta sleepy. Not in a pleasant way.

 

[papa]

"Hey doc, I take 400mg of caffeine a day, along with some other stimulants that are far more dangerous, what can you prescribe" That won't work too well . The doctors around here are the type that won't prescribe anything to anyone or give anyone advice on drugs unless they pretty much need them to live. It's fucked up.

This is most likely completely unrelated, but I have horrible circulation. It could be bad circulation to my brain I guess but I'd still think stimulants would do something. Like sitting here in a 75ºF room, my hands are probably 55º or colder... It's really messed up.

2/10 ... I think you should troll harder....

 

[Alex000]

To the OP, you have never tried amphetamines of any sort. That would keep you wake almost definitely. You just don't sleep on amphetamines. I am surprised that you were able to fall asleep while using methylphenidate (Ritalin), but amphetamines induce a stimulation that just doesn't come with sleep. With Ritalin, you go up, you come down quickly, and the effects aren't as awakening as those of amphetamines.

 

[freedomchild]

Could be low thyroid. I know someone who could drink energy drinks, etc, and still have to take a nap. Cold hands are part of that.

 

[The Network]

^ That makes sense. IIRC I had a blood test for something else a couple years ago and my T4 levels were a little out of normal range. I'll ask a doctor.

 

[rumrek]

When I can't sleep I like to take a nice bath with bath salts. Then I *still* cant sleep.