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Stigma and Pregnancy (Coming Out About Opioid Use)

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Ultimately the op is going to do what she's going to do, but I don't think that means that her posting about getting an abortion should be above criticism, or just blindly supported. Harm reduction is good and fine but what about harm reduction for the fetus? There's other options like adoption.

Also, I'm not religious. It annoys me that people immediately try to tie being pro-life to conservative Christianity. Believe it or not not all pro-lifers are Bible thumping fundamentalists.
 
I'm not interested in this thread turning into a discussion on the morality of birth control, so if this keeps up I'm closing the thread.
 
In the first post the op is worried about harming/losing the baby. In another they say that they've decided they're getting an abortion. At least to me this comes across as being terribly conflicted, so I don't see why pointing out the cons should not be permitted. Some women might not experience guilt but an awful lot do. All you have to do is get on Youtube and search "regret" and "abortion". Either way I hope the op thinks long and hard at what could be a life changing decision.
 
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I just hope she makes whatever decision she feels is right for her.

It's her body and it's her choice <3
 
I would say the title should be changed for sure. It's not really about pregnancy it's more about salvaging a relationship. It's such a touchy subject and I think many people may not have clicked on it had they known it's about the boyfriend and not her baby. I can really see both sides of the pro argument. I guess I am neither because I fall somewhere in the middle. For me personally it's difficult to see a grown women with kids do it because at this point in life you should know better. After fighting with everything I had and 5 IVF cycles it did give me that sick feeling in my stomach when I read it. I honestly would not have read the thread if I didn't think I was supporting a woman that was trying to clean up and needed encouragment. It OP's decision and non of my business all I am saying is perhaps the title should be changed afterall. It really is misleading and I kinda wish I didn't read it. It will literally bother me the rest of the day now. Again not bashing OP or her decision just suggesting the title be changed because it's not at all about opiates and stigma and pregnancy. It's about the drugs, lying, and the boyfriend.
 
I'm really disappointed in the quality of responses given to the OP. If this were any other topic the OP would get support and undivided attention. It's unfortunate that some of us can't get past our own biases to offer the OP support, and instead will make this a debate about pro choice. When I get on this site I leave my own biases at login speak to the person. There is a philosophy and a political forum on this site for those types of discussions. Furthermore, harm reduction for the OP trumps an undeveloped fetus as there is a good chance it may not survive, or there's a good chance it will be disabled. The OP has two other children who desperately need her time, resources, and attention. Getting sober is the priority right now and statistics show that is unlikely to happen with the stress from a new baby. The relationship is also fractured as they work through the addiction. Our priorities should be in supporting the OP with the insane amount of stress she is dealing with.

I will also throw this out there, it is far easier for men to dictate what women should do with their bodies and pregnancies as they don't have to live with the consequences. Women get pregnant and so many father walk right on out of their live because it's stressful and hard work to raise a child...
 
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