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Do you guys who get clean from drugs start taking steroids and almost find it that when you come off the juice, you end up relapsing and using again? I've had a few stints getting clean from heroin ( iv user ) and steroids would kind of be my vice to get clean and healthy but when I would come off cycle would go back to the dope, wondering if anyone else has had this issue
 
No, because I'm not a mentally deficient junkie.

I honestly don't know how you can witness the sorts of people that are involved in the dope game and still make the decision to use that garbage. This forum isn't a place for you to whine and moan about how you wish you could nod and get huge at the same time.
 
Massive NO!

Get off the H.....Eat healthy, train heavy and live a healthy life.....Keep this going for many years and then think about AAS....Not until then.
 
How's anybody feel about low doses of amphetamine and steroids, so far psychologically they seem like a match made in heaven I'm wondering it amphetamine affects gains at less than 50 mg a day.
 
That is such bullshit. Get off your high horse. What makes the OP different from you? You takes drugs too, and I'd be surprised if they were obtained by presiption and collected by the pharmacy. Live and let live. I should sayy iff the h too but im getting there even though i very much still enjoy the stuff. even though i enjoy the idea of the perfect hit. I'm sick of getting shit doses of bad quality drugs halfway into the one of the few veins I have left before i miss.
I'm saving up for some proper drugs and micron filters. I'm going back on maintenence. I'm gonna work hard on myself and for making money. I will be fit and healthy with a month of hard work. I can buy some top quality coke and H and have bigger muscles and better veins.
Maybe that will be the hit I dream of and the one I remember fondly, and the one that makes me remember that all the pain i put myself through wasn't for nothing, but by that stage I'll be clean for good, touch wood. i have a good feeling.

I have what i believe to be anavar. I assum either 10mg or 20mg. Small, white, round, blank. Took two. I should know in a day or two at 20mg or 40mg a day. Thinking about taking 10md/day for a few weeks. Just a small boost for a while i am in no state to do a full cycle, financially or physically.
I take amphetamine a few times a week for productivity. Some of the Nazi SS troops took testosterone and methamphetamine during the war. These bad motherfuckers were not unlike a "super soldier. I think the combination might benifit the right person in the right situation. I need to get stronger and fitter and lose weight. These should help. I will do lots of cardio as well as weights. I will be fit and strong for my next attempt to kick at the end of the summer/before university starts.

im 26 if that matters to anyone who wants to critisize their automated or regarded opinion of me?
 
They usually come in 10 mg tryptamite.

I'm on done and Dex and running an anavar cycle. It might have a bad rep for being so tame and expensive but then again this mildness of sides and liver toxicity is perfect for a recovering addict like myself.

10-20 mg a day is too low though try , seems like a waste if you can't get your hands on minimum of 250-300 tabs for your cycle perhaps find a way to combine it with a cheaper substitute for a couple weeks. Or perhaps you might go with some botanical steroids , my mind has been blown by what simple oats can do (Avena sativa) in combination with a good diet and liberal amount of push-ups.

I'm on 50 mg a day.

My "stack"

Anavar 50 mg daily
Dex-amp 45 mg daily
Methadone 40 mg daily

Vitamin b & d supplements
Avena sativa every day (oatmeal breakfast (
Aswhaganda 0,5-2g in the evening for better/deeper sleep it's a safe alternative to ghb/baclofen/phenibut IMO.

Fenugreek and cannabis before meals to increase appetite.
 
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bingey said:
How's anybody feel about low doses of amphetamine and steroids, so far psychologically they seem like a match made in heaven I'm wondering it amphetamine affects gains at less than 50 mg a day.
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Both AAS and stimulants like amphetamines have negative consequences on the cardiovascular system and heart. So putting the two together is obviously not ideal since either alone have been shown to cause long-term harm. You may find something of a negative health synergy - this is already the case in AAS using bodybuilders who habitually abuse stimulants like caffeine and ephedrine.

However though it pains me to admit it, the combination probably is synergistic from a strictly cosmetic point of view given that the stimulant amine class appear to be relatively effective myostatin inhibitors. Given the choice (ie if you don't have ADHD etc) I wouldn't combine them out of concern for the long-term health implications though.
 
As for anavar, bear in mind that it's often actually low dose winstrol (stanozolol) or mixed with winstrol, which is cheaper to produce. Not always, but often. So it may not be quite as benign as it should be.
 
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Both AAS and stimulants like amphetamines have negative consequences on the cardiovascular system and heart. So putting the two together is obviously not ideal since either alone have been shown to cause long-term harm. You may find something of a negative health synergy - this is already the case in AAS using bodybuilders who habitually abuse stimulants like caffeine and ephedrine.

However though it pains me to admit it, the combination probably is synergistic from a strictly cosmetic point of view given that the stimulant amine class appear to be relatively effective myostatin inhibitors. Given the choice (ie if you don't have ADHD etc) I wouldn't combine them out of concern for the long-term health implications though.
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Was going to say this. However I am prescribed 20mg XR a day and can say they make workouts so much better. Pumps are insane.

Even though adderall is a vasoconstrictor I still get awesome pumps.
 
Yeah I really don't know. I have a bottle of clenbuterol 20/40mg (to lazy to check) but they are the real deal. Although I dont like them (they feel like a pure adrenic agonist - which is what I believe they are) I might consider when I am more stable on the methadone in low doses for burning fat.
There are a few oxymethylone tabs in there too, but they are dreadful for your liver, and especially being on methadone and benzos.

I don't know what lead me at the time to think they were anavar but there was a reason. I should feel effects after a few days if I bump it up to 50mg? They didnt taste unpleasant if it helps sort of sweet but with a definate chemical taste there.

I could bump it up to 50mg a day and get some more in a week or two. I know a reputable vendor. I plan on getting some higher quality amphetamine too. I would do a test cycle but I don't feel like I could commit to doing the hard work that should accompany a "proper" cylce and PCT at this time in my life.

Anavar 50mg/day for 4 weeks. PCT necessary?
 
I felt effects within 3 days that being said I suffer from A certain form of autism and am very sensitive to psychological effects of drugs.

The anastrazole feels like a mild stimulant a bit like tjrr energy you get from modafinil and something different a sense of confidence I always associated with downers .(testosterone affects gaba release , wonder if these do too)

However there are also physical effects for me the most immediate was constant arousal and puberty like 4-5 daily erections.

Now day 5 my muscles are feeling stronger haven't worked out seriously yet still recovering and spending some time on Cardiovascular exercise and sports which I really shouldn't if I want to put on mass.

This is my second cycle btw very sensitive to test aromatisation so first one was a failure . The AI just wasn't cutting it.

Ps CFC thanks for the contribution
 
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Chosenone23 said:
Do you guys who get clean from drugs start taking steroids and almost find it that when you come off the juice, you end up relapsing and using again? I've had a few stints getting clean from heroin ( iv user ) and steroids would kind of be my vice to get clean and healthy but when I would come off cycle would go back to the dope, wondering if anyone else has had this issue
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How old are you? Blasting and cruising is an option if it keeps you away from heroin. It's a big commitment.
 
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Yeah I really don't know. I have a bottle of clenbuterol 20/40mg (to lazy to check) but they are the real deal. Although I dont like them (they feel like a pure adrenic agonist - which is what I believe they are) I might consider when I am more stable on the methadone in low doses for burning fat.
There are a few oxymethylone tabs in there too, but they are dreadful for your liver, and especially being on methadone and benzos.

I don't know what lead me at the time to think they were anavar but there was a reason. I should feel effects after a few days if I bump it up to 50mg? They didnt taste unpleasant if it helps sort of sweet but with a definate chemical taste there.

I could bump it up to 50mg a day and get some more in a week or two. I know a reputable vendor. I plan on getting some higher quality amphetamine too. I would do a test cycle but I don't feel like I could commit to doing the hard work that should accompany a "proper" cylce and PCT at this time in my life.

Anavar 50mg/day for 4 weeks. PCT necessary?
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I'd wait until you feel you're in a good place if I were you, so you can make the most of the opportunity. If you really want to be sure what you're taking, you could order a basic LabMax test kit for anavar/winstrol, it's only $15.
 
Thanks for the informative reply and general good advice.

I might wait till I actually start methadone officially as opposed to buying it off the streets. I would have more money for said test kit and or an order for defo legit anavar. But it does sound like a good sted.

Apologies for laziness but should the 50mg be taken all at once or broken down during the day?
 
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That is such bullshit. Get off your high horse. What makes the OP different from you? You takes drugs too, and I'd be surprised if they were obtained by presiption and collected by the pharmacy. Live and let live. I should sayy iff the h too but im getting there even though i very much still enjoy the stuff. even though i enjoy the idea of the perfect hit. I'm sick of getting shit doses of bad quality drugs halfway into the one of the few veins I have left before i miss.
I'm saving up for some proper drugs and micron filters. I'm going back on maintenence. I'm gonna work hard on myself and for making money. I will be fit and healthy with a month of hard work. I can buy some top quality coke and H and have bigger muscles and better veins.
Maybe that will be the hit I dream of and the one I remember fondly, and the one that makes me remember that all the pain i put myself through wasn't for nothing, but by that stage I'll be clean for good, touch wood. i have a good feeling.

I have what i believe to be anavar. I assum either 10mg or 20mg. Small, white, round, blank. Took two. I should know in a day or two at 20mg or 40mg a day. Thinking about taking 10md/day for a few weeks. Just a small boost for a while i am in no state to do a full cycle, financially or physically.
I take amphetamine a few times a week for productivity. Some of the Nazi SS troops took testosterone and methamphetamine during the war. These bad motherfuckers were not unlike a "super soldier. I think the combination might benifit the right person in the right situation. I need to get stronger and fitter and lose weight. These should help. I will do lots of cardio as well as weights. I will be fit and strong for my next attempt to kick at the end of the summer/before university starts.

im 26 if that matters to anyone who wants to critisize their automated or regarded opinion of me?
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I just told you what makes me different than him, you drug addled degenerate.


Enjoy your var only cycle with no test base. On one hand, I'm actually glad people like you exist since it makes it all the more easier for people who actually do put effort in. Not really surprising since you really think all it takes is "just a month of hard work" Lmao. Enjoy LARPing some fantasies about being a German soldier, I guess.
 
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I just told you what makes me different than him, you drug addled degenerate.


Enjoy your var only cycle with no test base. On one hand, I'm actually glad people like you exist since it makes it all the more easier for people who actually do put effort in. Not really surprising since you really think all it takes is "just a month of hard work" Lmao. Enjoy LARPing some fantasies about being a German soldier, I guess.
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I am not getting into an online battle with some juiced up angry little man (little, not literally heightwise, rather in the sense that you are not the bigger man in this picture).

What I do with my steroids and other drugs is my business, I asked for advice, not for insults. I understand the reasons one would use a testosterone base for any halfway serious cycle, and follow up with PCT, but I am taking about 20-40mg/day anavar for a few weeks.
I do not even know if it is real!! Perhaps after 1 week I will bin them and wait till I get the real deal along with some test prop, arimidex and PCT meds for a short cycle.

Not all of us are looking to put it the massive amount of hard work and dedication it takes to build up huge amounts of muscle. I just want to look a little better with my top off this summer (which is basically on top of us)!

I don't know what your problem is with drug users but you sir are one of them. We can categorise and differentiate AAS and HEROIN (oh lordy) all day but lets not bother.
Go back to the mirror or sport your new tank top by struting down the boardwalk, and maybe beat up some homosexuals if you dislike gay men as you do drug addicts.

I bet you enjoy runescape. Maybe your runescape GF broke up with you and thats why you're mad?

Lets not derail this thread with utter garbage, we've both had a shot, let's walk away like gentlemen.
 
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