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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Sterilizing syringes?

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Falcon0r

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A friend of mine was banging with some syringes. I went over the whole "Those better not be used!" thing and he said "They were both only used once but they were sterilized."

The guy he got them from swears up and down that he is clean from any diseases, and I take his word on the matter about as far as I trust a used car salesman. Either way though, point aside, this is what he did. He boiled water and submerged the whole needle (These were insulin syringes) into the boiling water and then drew up/shot out boiling water several times to "clean out and sterilize" the whole inside and then did the same with hydrogen peroxide (Because rubbing alcohol was not available).

How reliable is this? I've met the guy he got them from, and he was sort of recently in a rehab center that did a bloodtest on him that came back completely clean. He claims to have never used a needle he received from anyone else and is only sexually active with his wife who is also clean judging from her recent blood test. But solely on the part of actually sterilizing and killing any bacteria or germs or any other bad shit, how reliable is this method?

I slapped him for doing this anyways, but now I'm curious.
 
Boiling water doesn't really sterilise needles unless you literally boil them for a fair time. As far as I know, cold water and bleach is the recommended "If you really must share needles" way of getting them clean as possible. Short version:

How can a person sterilise needles and syringes and make them safer to use?

HIV is killed by household bleach, so this can be used to sterilise equipment.

* The needles or syringes should first be thoroughly washed, preferably in hot water containing detergent, and then rinsed in clean cold water;
* They should then be completely covered in a mixture of 1 part strong bleach to 10 parts of clean cold water, and left there for 30 minutes if possible; and
* They must then be rinsed several times with clean water, as bleach and detergent are poisonous, and must never be put in or on the body, or drunk as a medicine.

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Long version.

Fair bit of work - fresh pins are pretty essential really and usually not too hard to lay hands on.
 
You would need to have it in boiling water for several minutes to kill bacteria.
Even if you had access to bleach or alcohol, they have a hard time killing hepatitis. Supposedly peroxide is the best way to kill that.
Even if you bleach and peroxide your set, there's still a chance it could be dirty. There's no way to make them safe. Only safer
Not to mention how much better for your veins new sets are.
Just go to the pharmacy and buy some, or get them shipped online, they're cheap. Or go to your local exchange. Atleast one of these should be an option in your area.
 
lazylazyjoe said:
You would need to have it in boiling water for several minutes to kill bacteria.
Even if you had access to bleach or alcohol, they have a hard time killing hepatitis. Supposedly peroxide is the best way to kill that.
Even if you bleach and peroxide your set, there's still a chance it could be dirty. There's no way to make them safe. Only safer
Not to mention how much better for your veins new sets are.
Just go to the pharmacy and buy some, or get them shipped online, they're cheap. Or go to your local exchange. Atleast one of these should be an option in your area.
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best answer possible.
I don't share rigs, I don't care who it's coming from. I'd assume anything that's not from it's package it is full of AIDS and Hep C. That being said, boiling is not a reliable way to clean the syringes, first because it takes up to 7-10 minutes for some pathogens to be rendered harmless, second because some pathogens are not rendered harmless by boiling water. Hydrogen Peroxide should do a pretty goo job of disinfecting the rigs, but not to a point that I'd feel comfortable sharing.
 
Thanks for the responses. The only way to get them here is to go to the pharmacy at the hospital (It is the only pharmacy in the area that doesn't ask questions) and they close at 4 in the afternoon. Don't worry, I did kick him in the face for this.
 
I could see sterlizing maybe a plugging rig but I couldnt use a rig more than twice had to be a ultra fine tip..

There is some shit that ajax and bleach will not take off. Ya dont want no hep or aids.

There is several places you can get them on and off the web.
aint saying i never shared one but I was dumb you have a hole website of folks that will give you good truthfull advice.
 
If you're worried about being asked questions, say that you or maybe even your young nephew who has type 1 diabete is in town visiting, and doesn't have his needles. Be specific too. Say a guage, size, & length. Like 31 guage, 1cc, 1/2 inch.
If they still are reluctant say it's imperitive that you get some as you're afraid he might go into diabetic shock as his vison is started to get fuzzy already. You have to be good at lying to get away with that last part though. Plus, you'll probably have to go to a pharmacist who hasn't previously turned you down. I've never had a pharmacist get that involved. Just telling them I, or someone I know, has type 1 is enough.

You should atleast be able to get a 10 pack. The big chain pharmacys are usually easy, though some may want to se ID. Just make sure you don't look like a strung out junky and have long sleeve shirts on.

*Basic info in case he asks ya. Type one diabetes patients are unable to produce insulin to break down the glucose that is inside all the food we eat. They must inject insulin on a regular basis. They usually are diagnosed at an early age. Type 2 patients don't usually meed insulin as their bodies ignore their insulin.

Or just have them shipped online. Just about every state but, NJ, DE,PA can be shipped to. Pa is ok as of last fall.
 
According to recent research, the best way to clean used syringes is to suck up water with one cup, expel, suck up thin bleach (no need to dilute or leave it sitting), expel and finally suck up water from a new cup of fresh water and then expel. That's it. This is over 99% effective in killing HIV, Hep A and Hep B. No need to mess around doing anything else with alcohol etc. Using alcohol or detergent can be no more than 85% effective in killing the viruses.
 
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