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St. Johns wort and 5 HTP?

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Ok so I've got SJW Kira brand, suppositively the "best" brand besides perkia, and I'm taking an amino acid complex with large doses of 5htp along with many other amino acids. Is it safe to take the two together?

Also, does anyone know if large doses of 5htp cause down regulation of SERTs?
 
ive seen sjw advertised with 5htp as an added ingredient so im assuming that its safe.

and 5htp has been shown to downregulate serotonin receptors after pro-longed use.
 
No sirrrr, I think I'm done with MDMA for atlas 2+ years, I'm still in recovery mode big timeeee. Feelin alot better that I've come off them SSRIs, they made me feel so blunted and detached. So yeah, I'm using it for the upregulation of my receptors, aswell I've read some promising things from a few posters about it efficany at relieving post MDMA depression, even though I'm like 8 months post haha

One of these days hopefully I'll be able to say I made it haha I'm just enjoyin the mind fuck ride I'm on :) it's like a longgggggggg bad very mild acid trip lol
 
^^craaaap because im actually gonna start antidepressants sometime this month -.-

hopefully ill just get some anti-anxiety meds haha
 
Man no joke, my friend works at a herbal store today, and he gave me this balance formula called PASCOE natural balence, it has a blend of passion flower, valerian root and st johns wort. The passionflower is for restlessness and anxiety, valerian for sleep, and SJW for depression.

Anyways, I took it for the first time 3 hours ago, and keep in mind I have insane insomnia, 100 mg seroquel only puts me out for 4 hours, anyways since I took that pascoe stuff, I've been real giddy and giggly, completely anxiety free and just really content, exactly what he said it would do, Ive had a constant smile on my face, and I feel as if I could fall asleep without an aid..

I'm prescribed benzos for anxiety and this shyt seems to be working, also I'm 7 days post cold turkey cessation of my SSRIs and smoking so it's strange for me to feel like this. I'm enjoying it to say the least.

Don't get me wrong, I was bed wridden for months, the SSRIs got me out of bed, working everyday, running reading and body building.. Mypupils use to look huggggggeee too, like I was rolling or something.. Anyways they worked at first (10 mg lexapro) , then I noticed after like 6 weeks that my mood was dipping, and psych wanted me to up dose, but I decided it got me up and going so that's Ll I needed.

If you want anti anxiety stuff, 200 mg picamilon will work wonders, they were better than my klonopin no joke, but you can only use 5 days a week, it's a nootropic.
 
severely etarded said:
Try tianeptine... It's an SSRE drug that helps your SERTS recover. You may have to order it from overseas vendor though.

Search this forum for "harm protection supplements" thread in ED forum
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One step ahead of you mate ;) got a two month supply already from aurapharm for $100. Ive got this recovery planned out, SSRIs to start since tianoetine made me feel real weird at first, step two, SJW Kira brand to upregulate receptors from SSRI use, with some curcumin and Ginko for blood flow and BDNF expression, then quit, and cycle my Tianeptine to top off my recovery, I heard it's real good for mental clarity and people almost say it's addicting, some use recreationally, so I figured it'd be a good gift to top myself off with.

I'm currently done step 1 lol
 
Btw, picamilon is a neuroenhanced version of Niacin (vit B3) and GABA, now since GABA itself cannot cross the blood brain barrier, this drug was designed for high permeabity across the BBB where it is then broken down into Niacin (which is uses to treat depression and anxiety in some) and GABA itself, stimulationg for GABA receptors for it's desired anti anxiety effect.

I've been using niacin the past week aswell, if you take enough for a flush, I find it relives your anxiety noticeably and gives you a mood boost. So it makes sense that picamilon is the best of both worlds in a sense. And niacin also dialates you brains blood vessels which is great for circulation and nutrient absorbsion..
 
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