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Spring Cleaning v2009

Mehm said:
My suggestion is that the "three threads on the front page" rule be suspended. This way, if you are interested in seeing certain pieces saved, go ahead and bump everything. That will offer it automatic protection from the prune. If you want to take it a step further, I would suggest archiving everything into a singular thread. Perhaps this thread can be moved to the permanent archives. If people want all of the replies saved as well, I would be happy to do the merging for you.
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I've started bumping what I want saved, but realised I'm only half way through the works of one person and already it's taking over the front page so I don't think it's going to be feasible for me to do it for everything I want.

If I post a links to everything I think should stay can they just be archived or something?
 
Thanks for the bumps upallnight. I appreciate it. I dont have any of my work saved (I know, I know) and I would be really sad to lose them. Likewise for all the other old pieces that I loved. Im going through now and saving everything of mine and all the others I can think of... but there are bound to be dozens that I miss that will occur to me over the next... who can say?

I really dont think it would hurt the prune to ignore Words all together. It's a low post rate forum, has a low spam percentage on top of that, and this is lowered further by there being a post load that the mods can realistically keep on top of. Just about anything off topic gets deleted or moved anyway. It's been a while since I was a Words mod, but I doubt much has changed. Correct me if I'm wrong mods. Please.

It seems like theres going to be a whole lot of effort and inevitable heartache (we all make mistakes) go into this, for not very much gain at all. Perhaps it would be best just left alone.

Another alternative is to mass archive old posts and then let the mods slowly sift though at their leisure. A long term project to remove anything that should have been deleted rather than archived. And if this doesn't end up happening... like i said, its not too big a deal.
 
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Yours are archived. They will now remain in the land of forever. :)

I have yet to see much of any spam (maybe ONE thread) here. It's not hard to moderate, people who come here are generally either wanting to share or appreciate the craft, and those type of people tend to be the good ones. :)

I'm trying to archive anything you guys want. I'm doing my best.
 
And its appreciated MynameisnotDeja. Thank you.

I just feel bad for the people who come back here in a few years and do a search for their writing, as I have done on more than one occasion, and theyre not quite so lucky.
 
I've been going through and randomly archiving all the posts that have replies. I can't promise I will have time to do all of them though, as there are 200 some pages.

As for the ones that don't have replies, I am not sure what to do with these. As someone pointed out before, maybe it would be easier to just archive everything besides what we decide DOESN'T need to be archived.

For example, we don't need the older lyrics threads do we?
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
Yours are archived. They will now remain in the land of forever. :)
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Actually, only the ones I bumped appear to be archived. I don't have time tonight to bump the rest but I'll make the effort to bump all the work from all the posters over the next week or so. It's going to be a fairly time consuming process.

I still think this is a really, really bad idea.

harraser: No way would I let your posts be deleted. Thought I'd do some bumping because I wasn't sure if you'd be back around these parts in time to bump them yourself.
 
And I wouldn't have been if there hadn't been twenty-something bluelight reply notifications waiting in my inbox.

On the upside, glancing at all my poems again is somewhat inspiring.. I doubt much will come of it, but we live in hope.

This is gonna be a long night.

open, read, save. open, read, save, and so on and so forth, ad infinitum.

In my case, I'm glad because this is something I've been meaning to do for some time. But TLB, please consider just leaving it be, for the benefit of all the others. Even posts with no replies can have some value for the writer. Some of my favorites of my own got scarcely a single reply, and I know it would kill me to lose them.
 
First, I'll point out - if there were a server collapse, or the databasae got proper phooked, all this stuff would be gone anyways, prune or not. So, lesson and reminder to any and all - keep a personal copy of stuff offline if it means anything to you at all.


Coming back to the situation at hand, and I'm trying to figure out how to help ease this transition. What I CAN do is create a temporary sub-forum and call it "PENDING DELETION" or somesuch. I can then move ALL posts from 2002-2004 into there. Everyone can focus on just the content in that section and have the mods archive things or move it back to the active forum if there is some life left for discussion. Then, after a week's review, I can kill everything left in that 'Pending Deletion' folder and move in all the 2004-2006 stuff for a similar review. This allows people to focus on smaller chuncks at a time rather than trying to eat this 7 yr old elephant all at once.

I will also make two last comments at this time. As an administrator - merging threads doesn't really save us much. Still the same number of replies to be sifted during a search for anything in here; and if you're merging all the replies to an author's work it will become a jumbled mess because all replies will be sorted by post date :\ As a member - I would also be more interested in saving the responses, not just the original author's work, as the feedback is a big part of the nostalgia as well as providing insight for future writers to see how other work is critiqued. So, what would I kill? (I know, a third comment, sue me)....I'd look for works that got little to no response, works that were the only 1-3 posts ever made by someone in here (going by name recognition works, but is inherently biased). If someone put a lot of their heart in here, their name would be recognized, but someone with a decent amount of work in here is also much more likely to come back and revisit than someone who posted only a few works and then moved on, IMO.
 
First, I'll point out - if there were a server collapse, or the databasae got proper phooked, all this stuff would be gone anyways, prune or not. So, lesson and reminder to any and all - keep a personal copy of stuff offline if it means anything to you at all.
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Exactly, I'm sorry and like I said before, I really don't mean to make it sound like I don't care. But people can't post the only copies of their work here and then expect it to be here years later. It just doesn't make sense. Posting anything on a public forum is no guarantee, it isn't a personal computer..

Coming back to the situation at hand, and I'm trying to figure out how to help ease this transition. What I CAN do is create a temporary sub-forum and call it "PENDING DELETION" or somesuch. I can then move ALL posts from 2002-2004 into there. Everyone can focus on just the content in that section and have the mods archive things or move it back to the active forum if there is some life left for discussion. Then, after a week's review, I can kill everything left in that 'Pending Deletion' folder and move in all the 2004-2006 stuff for a similar review. This allows people to focus on smaller chuncks at a time rather than trying to eat this 7 yr old elephant all at once.
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Yeah, that works for me. Thanks!

I will also make two last comments at this time. As an administrator - merging threads doesn't really save us much. Still the same number of replies to be sifted during a search for anything in here; and if you're merging all the replies to an author's work it will become a jumbled mess because all replies will be sorted by post date As a member - I would also be more interested in saving the responses, not just the original author's work, as the feedback is a big part of the nostalgia as well as providing insight for future writers to see how other work is critiqued. So, what would I kill? (I know, a third comment, sue me)....I'd look for works that got little to no response, works that were the only 1-3 posts ever made by someone in here (going by name recognition works, but is inherently biased). If someone put a lot of their heart in here, their name would be recognized, but someone with a decent amount of work in here is also much more likely to come back and revisit than someone who posted only a few works and then moved on, IMO.
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This is the basic criteria I'm trying to follow. <3
 
Great suggestions TLB, we should implement them all. thanks for thinking for me :D
 
up to 2005 now resides in PENDING DELETION. Everyone has until Sunday MAY 10 to go through that stuff, at which point anything still in there gets nuked.

Mods, please move threads out of there and over to ARCHIVE or back to WORDS as appropriate. When I blast the remainder on Sunday afternoon I will then move 2005-2006 content in there for a week's review.
 
I had some threads or rather a big handful of old stuff I wrote, I would love to still have them archived here. Some of them might be but I dont think so I will post the thread in 'PENDING DELETION' also the thread is a organized copy of what I have written in words.

Thanks I appreciate it!

Peace & God Bless,
Seedless

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=181442

Memories, they can't be boughten.
They can't be won at carnivals for free.
Well it took me years to get those souvenirs,
And i don't know how they slipped away from me.

Broken hearts and dirty windows
Make life difficult to see.
That's why last night and this morning
Always look the same to me.
And I hate reading old love letters
For they always bring me tears.
I can't forget the way they robbed me,
Of my sweetheart's souvenirs.

Memories they can't be boughten,
They can't be won at carnivals for free.
Well it took me years to get those souvenirs
And i don't know how they slipped away from me.

-A lil' John Prine for effect :)
 
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Just as an FYI for the moment, for those wishing to keep a personal copy of a thread. Try using the pulldown menu near the top right labeled "Thread Tools" -> Show Printable Version -> (then do a File -> Save As)
 
everything has been archived blahblahblah. An amazing collection you have there to say the least. peace <3
 
TheLoveBandit said:
Just as an FYI for the moment, for those wishing to keep a personal copy of a thread. Try using the pulldown menu near the top right labeled "Thread Tools" -> Show Printable Version -> (then do a File -> Save As)
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If it's multi-page you can view all posts as a single page before saving too. :)
 
AH SCARY!!! :(

This is probably a good thing in a way as it will force me to actually back up my work somewhere other than bluelight.....and I realise these things happen blah blah blah, but I'm with UAN and harasser and everyone else, it's gonna be sad to see a lot of my stuff go because Words has been a big part of my life for the past umpteen years and I can literally go through the stuff I have posted here and see my evolution as a person as much as a writer....but then it feels a bit self-indulgent just bumping everything I've ever done, I've got like 7 or 8 pages of individual pieces on this forum, I dunno if people really need to have the first 8 pages of Words being Raz's Special Time... ;)

External Hard Drive, here I come!
 
^^If you make a thread with links to everything you want saved, I'd be happy to archive it for you. I'll send a PM to you with the same suggestion. If you simply want everything saved, I can do a user name search and archive it all.
 
ALL RIGHT EVERYONE! Listen up! :)
I archived everything with replies and bumped a few old conversations back into WORDS so we could maybe revive them because they looked interesting. Everything left in the pending deletion bin is stuff with no replies. So if you guys are interested in saving any of that stuff, go ahead and look through there and bump anything you are interested in, and anything I see bumped I will archive.
 
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