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spiritual experiences on ecstasy

THE WOOD said:
yes, mdma can be an extremely spiritual experience.
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Really? You wouldn't strike me as an individual who would say that. I feel that even though MDMA has the potential to be extremely powerful and life-changing, it doesn't really ever reach a spiritual state (for me at least). I agree with the poster who said that MDMA has helped him come to terms in his life, sort of like a self-analysis tool. The happiness under the influence of MDMA has always had a "fake" egotistical feel to me, espescially when rolling with large groups of people or watching someone under the influence when not rolling..I've had the most spiritual experiences on high doses of psilocybin, even more so than on LSD
 
I have never had a "spiritual experience" per say, but like posters above me have said, it has helped me come to some realizations, and HAS changed my life and who I am. The empathy and the happiness that I feel on mdma is something that i've learned to take with me, those feelings of closeness and kindness towards other people... I try to carry that with me after it's over and it helps me look at life and other people in a new light.
 
for sure
you definately have to be with a spiritual group of people though
everyone has to be open to that kind of stuff to have an awesome spiritual connection
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I've become really close with my friend that I do it with...it's pretty nice. I think it's given me a totally positive outlook on life though.
 
i wonder what real spiritual effects it would have if your peaking hard and enter a haunted area with strong spiritual energy
 
^^

Crossing paths with some type of supernatural entity would be enough to kill my roll completely. I don't think I would enjoy light flickers or any other type of "unexplained" activity.

I would much rather have some sort of profound psychological breakthrough than the kind you just mentioned.

;)
 
I haven't used MDMA in almost 5months after a completley unsatisfying time with pills I knew to be brilliant. I'm going to aquire some good pills in the future and use them on my own for a spiritual/theraputic purpose by just listening to some of my favourite non-electronic music(maybe a bit of chillout trance).

I attempted this before but I had some rather good crystals and took too much for the purpose because I started 'zoning-out'(you know when you blank out and you are somewhere else that is unknown and talking shit to some random person and when you come to you're standing up in a different room?). Then I began to see some disturbing things so I had to turn the light on.

Next time I believe I will leave out the cannabis :)
 
it wasn't during the peak of my roll, but a few hours after when i was still feeling the trippy aftereffects, i was just dancing to trance music at a rave and went into this amazing trance state where i relived all my best memories. it was indubitably the most spiritual experience i have ever had, and it has made me an infinitely better person, but it had one downside:

i ALWAYS am trying to reconnect with that amazing state.

sometimes i can reach it, but never for as long a time and with such an... i dunno, aura of newness and amazingness. entering trance, however, has become a sort of way for me to connect with my dead grandmother whom i loved very much. i might sound like a crazy mystic, but i'm really a rationalist at heart and i'm telling you: experiential trance states WILL convince the coldest, most unspiritual person that there are higher powers...

i've experimented with psychedelics other than MDMA and they haven't been much better with getting me in touch with higher powers, unfortunately. it was mostly LSD, which i think is too "aesthetic" in nature. MDMA is so much more accessible, cooler, and calmer than the craziness and insanity of LSD. my candyflip, however, was pretty amazing, but it was at home. i'd love to try that at a rave, but i'm scared something could go wrong. :/ if everything went right, though, it'd be fucking amazing, i know it.
 
It's opened me up to synchronicity but I have found I get more spiritual feelings from Mushrooms. They have more depth than E.
 
i have only taken high doses of MDMA twice and neither time did i reach a spiritual level. maybe it was because i was in a setting that wasn't conducive to achieving it or maybe it just wasn't a high enough dose. i would like to reach that state of mind but i'm not expecting it to happen every time i roll. one day, it will come. i just have to be patient and wait for the opportunity.

LSD, however, is a different story. i was visited by the devil while sitting in a speaker at a rave in the Fox Theater in Pomona. he spoke to me and brought up very valid points about friendship and offered advice that left me thinking. i was 15 at the time and i still haven't forgotten what he told me, it was a profound life-changing experience.
 
i think that having a spiritual on MDMA isn't at all dependent on dose, in fact, i'd suggest a medium rather than high dose considering high doses can really fuck you up and make you want to sit down and hug people instead of being uppity and dancy. what is conducive to a MDMA-assisted spiritual experience is DANCING. this is a drug that makes me feel as light as a feather, and just makes me want to move my feet (although i also love talking/meeting new people on it.) during the dancing, it seems to facilitate introspective viewing and, if you dance long enough, it seems to ease the body into wonderful trance states. the music is also key, you need something very hypnotic, like trance music, instead of something saccharine, like happy hardcore music. (luckily, however, the trend seems toward trancier happy hardcore, which i can get to trance states with too.)

but maybe the trance dance theory only works for me. maybe not!
 
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