Spiked with cut (?) MDMA of unknown origin and hoping to repeat experience. Advice?

[MollyCocktail]

Recently, due to a misunderstanding, I was spiked at a club with what was likely MDMA, but may have had some other components. The person who gave me the drink told me that it was "pills" in it, but it is impossible for me to know now exactly what I took.

The best way to put it is that I basically had stereotypical MDMA effects of becoming sociable and quite warm and loving, but I was also very twitchy. The experience was mostly colored by extreme, unshakeable levels of confidence, with the sensation that I could pull any girl I want and that I was the coolest guy in the club, with zero fear of approaching anybody. To look at me I was sitting there looking around quickly, licking my lips and clenching my teeth very frequently, with nystagmus every now and then. Also when the high hit it was a fast rush up from my feet rather than slow and steady. As soon as it hit my head I became witty, charming, and had excellent abilities to flirt, I spoke very quickly and in a higher pitched voice. My pupils looked like dinner plates.

In contrast, other friends who took MDMA were spaced out and waving around which I have heard is the usual MDMA experience, whereas I was grounded and down to Earth.

During the comedown I experienced hallucinations of carpet patterns morphing and moving around, flashing light and what looked like a gas or static in the air. I experienced rainbow tunnel and fractal patterns with my eyes closed and visions which I very quickly became engrossed in and had to snap myself out of.

This was a great feeling for me and something I would most definitely like to experience again. Do you think it was cut MDMA, and if so, what would you guess it was cut with?

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

You could have taken MDA, or it could have been a totally other drug put into the drink such as LSD, or some psychedelic research chemical along with MDMA.

Can you ask the person who put the drugs into the drink which drugs they put into it?

 

[MollyCocktail]

You could have taken MDA, or it could have been a totally other drug put into the drink such as LSD, or some psychedelic research chemical along with MDMA.

Can you ask the person who put the drugs into the drink which drugs they put into it?

Thanks. Sadly it was a chance encounter in a club, I won't see that person again. I heard MDA suggested by somebody else I asked too. I really enjoyed the speedy groundedness of the trip and more importantly the social confidence. Is it the same rules with MDA as with MDMA (can't use more than once every 3 months, and the "loss of magic" thing)?

 

[Black]

some of the symptoms you describe like nystagmus, warmth, having no social anxiety and the high hitting rather quickly sound like mdma, the others like confidence, having excellent abilities to flirt, thinking you're the coolest guy sound more like some straight stimulant like meth or coke.

it is really impossible for us to know as there are a huge amount of stimulants, a pretty large amount of entactogens and a quite a few substances in existance that combine both those characteristics. it could be either one substance or a combination. there are hundreds of cathinons that could have been included in that cocktail you got. other than saving some for analysis (which you probably didn't) or asking the guy who combined some random substances for you there is no way to find out. and it would be foolish as well as pointless of us to speculate.
this is why bluelight doesn't allow such threads.

btw: imho it doesn't sound like mda at all. mda is more confusing than clear-headed. and yes, the same rules that apply for mdma are also valid for mda. if you take mda one time you also should do mdma in the next 2 (or 3 or whatever) months.

 

[JahSEEuS]

some of the symptoms you describe like nystagmus, warmth, having no social anxiety and the high hitting rather quickly sound like mdma, the others like confidence, having excellent abilities to flirt, thinking you're the coolest guy sound more like some straight stimulant like meth or coke.

it is really impossible for us to know as there are a huge amount of stimulants, a pretty large amount of entactogens and a quite a few substances in existance that combine both those characteristics. it could be either one substance or a combination. there are hundreds of cathinons that could have been included in that cocktail you got. other than saving some for analysis (which you probably didn't) or asking the guy who combined some random substances for you there is no way to find out. and it would be foolish as well as pointless of us to speculate.
this is why bluelight doesn't allow such threads.

btw: imho it doesn't sound like mda at all. mda is more confusing than clear-headed. and yes, the same rules that apply for mdma are also valid for mda. if you take mda one time you also should do mdma in the next 2 (or 3 or whatever) months.

Should or Should Not? I believe it should say Should Not

 

[terarc]

Yeah the same rules apply to MDA as MDMA, in fact there is some reason to believe that MDA should be dosed even less frequently. It's probably best to throw all MDxx and related substances into one category and apply similar rules to them all, for example you shouldn't take MDMA once every three months but then be taking two other MDxx type drugs on the months in between. You need to give your brain a few months at least between every use of any drug of this type IMO. Not just to avoid the hotly debated negative effects or 'long term comedown' but just to preserve the fantastic magic these substances have, cause when it's gone it really goes.

 

[MollyCocktail]

some of the symptoms you describe like nystagmus, warmth, having no social anxiety and the high hitting rather quickly sound like mdma, the others like confidence, having excellent abilities to flirt, thinking you're the coolest guy sound more like some straight stimulant like meth or coke.

From what I've read, pills are often cut with speed or meth, so I suppose if there was another substance, it'd probably be one of those.

I did hear hallucinations are rare on MDMA, and the dose I had didn't feel like it was very high.

Is it possible that one could not have the "stoned" effect from MDMA and instead feel speedy? I'm considering experimenting with MDMA rock in a few months and seeing if I feel the same way, then perhaps MDA a few months after if not, and then next time if there's still no similarity, perhaps something like methylone, MDMA + meth or mephedrone. I heard MDMA + speed is actually quite a damaging combination so might give that a miss unless I'm mistaken.

By the way, it might be important to note that after a while I found it quite difficult to urinate. As far as I can tell I didn't really have much of a "roll", it was a pretty constant state of social confidence, except this moment when I told some guy we just met that he's a great guy loool.

 

[BlueBull]

As said above we don't do substance ID. Whatever you do, test your drugs before you take them

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