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To whom was that directed? I mentioned Benzedrine inhalers, and in case that's what you were talking about, don't worry – that product has been discontinued for decades. No one produces Benzedrine inhalers, and any similar products around today no longer contain any amphetamine isomers.
Speed and ice (meth) are two different drugs. Speed is amphetamine. Ice is methamphetamines.
To be fair, the original "ice" referred to
4-methylaminorex. Also, "methamphetamine" is not plural.
They are not the same substance.
Correct. Amphetamine is a primary amine while n-methylamphetamine is a secondary amine. Pharmacodynamically both amphetamine and methamphetamine are triple monoamine releasers acting on dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin.
The main difference is: meth is ~15x more serotonergic than the primary amine, amphetamine. This accounts for the differences in euphoric effect. I try to warn people that
meth is a recreational stimulant while
amphetamine (Dexedrine, Adderall, Vyvanse, etc.)
is a productivity-boosting stimulant. While either can be used for the other's purpose, they're best suited at what they're best at, respectively.
Actual speed, as in amphetamine sulphate, is rarely seen in Australia anymore. It's basically just meth now.
I don't doubt this as trade routes to Australia for cocaine from South America has ramped up in the past few decades, and also considering the influence of Asian transnational criminal organizations and how much of the world's supply of methamphetamine is made in countries like N. Korea and Myanmar… it's really not a surprise to hear this about the Australian meth market.
I realised last week that I actually did meth for the first time when I was 15, not 21 like I thought. I was told by the person who gave me the dealers number that he sold speed, but considering how prevalent meth is and how limited sources for actual speed are, I find it difficult to imagine I as a 15 year old stumbled across a speed dealer. Like an actual speech, amphetamines not methamphetamine dealer.
There's no real way to know now, but it's not actually all that hard to imagine. Starting from P-2-P,
it's possible to use ammonia (instead of methylamine, for example) in a reductive amination to produce amphetamine and not methamphetamine. This forms a salt easiest with sulfuric acid, but it's still fairly hygroscopic. At any rate, it's not at all impossible; be careful not to make too many assumptions.
I remembered that I paid the same price a point of meth costs, and that I ate it and was pretty high.
It's just my second (thought to be my first) experience with meth I immediately graduated to slamming it after not having touched it again over 6 years. Given the difference in intensity, I didn't think it could be the same drug.
I think you're forgetting to account for the rather
dramatic difference in routes of administration there, my guy.
Oral ingestion and intravenous injection are two very different experiences with most drugs. Don't you think this might have influenced your thinking on the matter?