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speed then mdma or mdma then speed?

papermate

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i have been wondering and would like to know...is there a difference.

if you take speed before mdma, does it reduce the peak?

levels of speed matter?
 
MDMA then speed, from my experience the speed overpowers the E. wizla on the comedown is great but when she runs out the crash is like the Colombia. Enjoy the ride but be aware of the re-entry.

JoKeR =D
 
the general (medical/scientific) consensus is that this combo is also very not good fer ya! you may know this but just in case you dont:)
 
MDMA then speed definetly.

I have seen on many time people take speed first (once I saw 1 whole point of pure stuff been taken), then have a cap of MD powder a few hours later and just as the peak started she started to OD. It was 10 hours of throwing up and hot sweats. I would always tell people to have the pill first, wait until the peak has finished, then have the speed. Safest way if your deciding on wich one to have first.

I personally try to avoid mixing my drugs all together though.
 
for me I would definatly say speed then mdma because mdma then speed the speed effect will over come thw mdma but
 
ok ok...thanks for all the replies.

is there a a moderator out there or someone knowledgable that can clarify the diffrence of opinoins?
 
papermate: I feel jokerswild has got it spot on.

Many of my friends take speed before MDMA a point or 2 To reduce the legless feeling associtaed with high dose mdma pills. They say it has no effect on the peak but rather inhances it. I find speed tends to take the edge off my peak so i have it after !!

I think it all depends on the indivdual......As other people have said speed + MDMA increases risk of neurotoxicity as methamphetamine stimulates the release of dopamine which is the neurotransmitter that causes troubles when you run out of seratonin.
 
Some people find that taking speed before MDMA leaves them buzzing so that they don't notice the MDMA comeup. They still peak as hard, but just go from nothing to peaking after about an hour, instead of slowly rushing up to it.

BigTrancer :)
 
wouldnt it make sense to have speed first, then a couple hours later drop the pills? then when your outta seratonin, the speed would have worn off, making it less toxic to your brain? sounds like having it when coming down would be the worst thing to do, as it would flood your brain with dopamine when its at its most fragile state.... oh well im going to try speed THEN pills tonight, ive never done them together before...
 
First of all, I like to take a "dash" of speed to get me going. Then I take 1 pill. As I reach peak I have a more substantial line of speed to really get me going.

The problem with taking to much speed first is, IMHO, it just hurts too god damn much. Lines of fire my friends and I call speed. And that drip is just oh so yuck.

After you have had a pill and are all loved up, the speed no longer hurts, you can't taste the drip, and it is all a major rush.

However, and this is a real big however....

Last time I indulged in speed/pill combo, I freaked out to all hell and back afterwards. I got home about 8 hours after taking the first dash of speed. And my heart was racing at unprecedented levels. And then I felt this weird gurgling sound on my heart, and freaked out completely. I survived, but was completely convinced I was about to drop dead and have a heart attack. So, careful how much "get up and go" powder you consume.
 
I almost always have a touch of speed before MDMA these days, even knowing it softens the blow from a good MDMA pill I can't help myself. Main reason being I find pills knock me for six these days and I need something to keep my feet nailed to the ground when the freight train hits.

I personally can't really deal with speed after pills, I find I come down from both in a bad way and end up a scatty paranoid hermit. To truley appreciate MDMA for what it is it really should be experienced without speed but for me if the combination must be done its always speed prior.
 
just for the record......


all those people who posted mdma first then speed win.

i had a look at a lot of photos that were taken on a previous night. the subject will remain anonymys. however.....
even though the subject felt fine, the mind was working, even buzzing, the photos show that the body just wasnt right.

1. eyes, the underneath very droopy,

2. it appears that most of the muscels in the face were very relaxed, almost paralysed.

3. although the symptoms showed, the brain felt absolutely fine and incredible acute.

4. pupils the size of beach balls.


basically the speed seems to have overided the roll, even though the subject was more or less rolling very hard the speed appears to have taken away from the

"oh my god, i feel so fantastic "feeling -

transfering into a placid,

"yeah, this is ok" feeling. - dancing ability felt great, and also told was good.
 
from my experance (this is for me i guess every one has there on preferances) drop say 1/2 to a whole (what ever your useal dose is) then have a few lines of speed strate after you drop, but hey thats just me i guess every body has there ways of taking drugs and thats why its always good to experment with the order you take your drugs in :D
 
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