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Speed, goey, wizz, force whatever

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Ok the dangers of ecstacy are pretty well publiscised and so too are the methods of harm reduction but what about goey?
I haven't heard much about people dying because they had a few lines of goey or whatever? Do people die from it? Are people sick from it? Can you still overheat etc?
Anyone have any comments?
 
Methamphetamine Effects
by Erowid
Positive Meth Effects
Increased energy and alertness, Decreased need for sleep, Euphoria, Increased sexuality
Neutral Meth Effects
excessive talking, weight loss, sweating, visual & auditory hallucinations (hearing voices)
Negative Meth Effects
disturbed sleep patterns, dis-interest in friends, sex, or food, itching, welts on skin
nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, excessive excitation, hyperactivity, shortness of breath, moodiness & irritability, anxiousness & nervousness, aggressiveness, involuntary body movements (uncontrollable movement and/or twitches of fingers, facial & body muscles, lip-smaking, tongue protrusion, grimacing, etc.), panic, suspiciousness & paranoia, malnutrition & anorexia, false sense of confidence and power (delusions of grandeur), aggressive and violent behavior
severe depression, suicidal tendencies
Possible Long Term Effects
fatal kidney and lung disorders, possible brain damage, permanent psychological problems, lowered resistance to illnesses, liver damage, stroke
Addiction and Withdrawal
Users of large amount of amphetamines over a long period of time can develop an amphetamine psychosis, which is a mental disorder similar to paranoid schizophrenia. The psychosis is manifested by hallucinations, delusions, and paranoia. Bizarre, sometime violent, behavior is exhibited by those with amphetamine psychosis. Symptoms usually disappear within a few weeks after drug use stops.
Withdrawal Symptoms
Amphetamines have the potential to produce tolerance, which means that increased amounts of the drug are needed to achieve the desired effects. Withdrawal symptoms can occur when use of amphetamines is stopped abruptly. Users may experience fatigue; long, disturbed periods of sleep; irritability; intense hunger, and moderate to severe depression. The length and severity of the depression is related to how much and how often amphetamines were used.
craving, exhaustion, depression, mental confusion, restlessness and insomnia, deep or disturbed sleep lasting up to 48 hours, extreme hunger, psychotic reaction, anxiety reactions
From Erowid: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/meth/meth_effects.shtml
As you can see, the meth/speed are addictive which has its own problems. You can overheat from using speed, and you can cause yourself to suffer elevated heartrate and blood pressure, which in extreme cases or in people who have heart problems can be fatal.
Also it would make sense to me that the dopamine release cause by use of amphetamines would exacerbate the neurotoxicity of MDMA when taken in synergy.
BigTrancer
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I know of several people who use speed and MDXX together. I have yet to indulge in this experience myself. Can anybody comment further on the positives/negatives of taking speed with MDXX
cheers
z-man
 
MOst people I know all take wiz and MD together.. I find it dulls the md effects a little but it is handy to get you off your arse if you've been stomped on by a very strong pill. Although I do find that meth-amphetamines have a nasty comedown compared with amphetamines, and im pretty sure there a lot worse for u.
 
Does speed on its own have any neurotoxic effects? Or is their any evidence of potential for possible permanent brain damage, anecdotal or otherwise?
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re speed 'dulling' MDMA effects etc..
I'd be interested to know if anyone else finds this - I've noticed that meth (at least what I assume to be meth) seems to go v. well with pills, ie it lifts me up, gives me a shitload of energy to dance, and if anything seems to complement the effects of the pill, ie I feel even happier
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But - I've had the experience several times where I've been dumb enough to have a line of what I assume was amphetamine while rolling - 10 minutes later I'm really wired, but the "loved up" feeling has gone out the window and I'm left wondering why I bothered with the line. Has anyone else noticed this difference between meth/speed with pills, or am I just tripping?
 
lsd303 , man i know exactly what ur on about, if i have crystal meth with mdxx, it adds to the felling, more euphoria, and that crazyness we all love, but on the other hand if i have crapy cut speed or amphetamine it tends to over pwer it all, i put it down to the fact meth and md come from the same strain both being meth amphetamines, and they mix well, where speed and md dont. but im not a scentist, thats only my opinion!!!!!
but im with u on it dude!!!!!!!!1
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If you have it when you are coming down from your peak its REALLY good, but its really bad for you...
Neurotoxicity is bad!
I did this on saturday, it gave me all my energy back and i could dance again!
I didnt have the loved up feeling anymore anyway so i couldnt loose it from taking the speed...
But it was better than speed just by its self because i still had quite a lot of an effect from the pill...
It was great, Neurotoxicity is BAD!
 
mMMm
i find that meth complements md very nicely also...
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But with speed I do definately notice a "cloaking" of some md characteristics...
 
I love speed..with a passion...
Mylast weekend (which began Thursday nite and ended sometime Sunday) was one long day /blur and yhe only sleep I had lasted a total of 4 hours....I wasnt tired at all..but when I finally did crash (sometime Sunday nite)I slept like a babee.
Im not physically addicted to speed , but when I can get it...and want to stay up as long as possible, I defintely gat it....
I cant say it compliments the effects of MDMA though..It rids me of the gakked/loved up feeling...but I can dance all nite....
Its good shit...very good shit...
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I have (personally) never found that meth dulls my pill.. it actually keeps me dancing.
But I know many people who says it does..
Maybe thats just me!
 
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