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Speed and MDMA on different days of a Festival?

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HEY, I have a reasonably simple question.

There's an upcoming 2 day festival that I am planning on attending and I realistically only have access to very few drugs; as in MDMA, speed and well, weed and alcohol. Now, I am aware of the horrible effects of mixing Speed and MDMA and the cross tolerance that exists between the two.

My question is, how horrible of an idea would it be to take MDMA the first day (maybe a normal first dose + a redose) and then the second day just take a significant amount of speed? Obviously I wouldn't expect much euphoria the second day (I would just smoke a lot of weed whilst on the speed to combat this), but I wouldn't want to just be all speedy and twitchy and still feel the MDMA comedown. Is this more harmful compared to taking them both on one day (that would be my other option....) or taking MDMA both days? Does anyone have experience doing this?

Which would be more appropriate from a harm-reduction standpoint: 150mg MDMA one day and 100mg Speed the next? Or 150mg MDMA and 100mg Speed all in one day? (I know the answer is neither, but I'm also curious from a neurological standpoint how the two alternatives compare.)

Any feedback is appreciated, THANKS. :)
 
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It depends on what "speed" is. I see that you are in Kansas. In the USA, "speed" usually refers to methamphetamine, whereas it refers to amphetamine in other places. If you are taking methamphetamine, its probably not the best idea to take it the day after mdma. You could get away with it, but stacking those comedowns would be quite rough. Amphetamine/Adderall is more forgiving though. MDMA primarily acts by releasing serotonin. Amphetamine and methamphetamine both primarily act by releasing dopamine, but meth also interacts somewhat with serotonin.

If I were you, and took the mdma on day one, I would smoke a lot of weed and have a few drinks on day two. Maybe a small amount of "speed" to keep myself awake and alert, but certainly not 100mg.

Generally I recommend taking MDMA on the last day due to the hangover/comedown. It's best not to be hungover when you want to enjoy the festival. The best way might be to do the other drugs on day one, but enough to not be too strung out by day two, when you would take the mdma. Just note that taking meth the day before mdma will make your roll weaker and slightly more harmful.
 
I would NOT do this... you will feel like hell warmed over. The lack of both serotonin and dopamine will stack on each other and magnify the negative effects by a magnitude of 10



Meth + MDMA is what set off a nearly 8 month comedown for myself.. it is EXTREMELY neurotoxic.
 
By Speed I do actually mean amphetamine, as in 'ice', not meth. I have mixed ~ice~ with MDMA at previous festivals, and although the comedown is pretty disastrous for the 1-3 days following, it is usually bearable/worth it.

I agree with what you said. From a drug standpoint, it makes much more sense to take MDMA the second day....I just prefer the djs the first day of such festival a lot more than the second day hence why I'm so conflicted about it. I imagine dumping out all of one's serotonin one day and all of one's dopamine the next would cause the comedowns to stack. I'm really curious as to if it would be worse than what I usually do, which is mix and take both drugs in combination in one night...which is what I would do if I end up choosing to roll one day.

To put it simpler, either I take ~150mg MDMA on day one and ~100mg speed the second, or just take all of the above on day two. Neither is really safe from a harm reduction standpoint, but I don't roll very often and I feel as though I can get away with binging here and there.
 
Given that you are taking amph instead of meth, you can probably get away with taking it on day two if you are careful. I still wouldn't recommend it though.(note that I'm not a big fan of it anyway) You are going to have to decide your dose based on how you feel on day two. If you have a nasty hangover, take it easy. I still wouldn't do 100mg though. You have weed and booze, which could make up for a lower dose. 30ish mg would be acceptable.(preferably by leaning more towards the weed) You know how you react to these drugs better than we do, but I am just saying what my choice would be, given your situation.
 
I could describe what it looks like but I think that's against the rules lol....

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Given that you are taking amph instead of meth, you can probably get away with taking it on day two if you are careful. I still wouldn't recommend it though.(note that I'm not a big fan of it anyway) You are going to have to decide your dose based on how you feel on day two. If you have a nasty hangover, take it easy. I still wouldn't do 100mg though. You have weed and booze, which could make up for a lower dose. 30ish mg would be acceptable.(preferably by leaning more towards the weed) You know how you react to these drugs better than we do, but I am just saying what my choice would be, given your situation.
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Would it be better just to take everything all on Day 2?
 
i guess a small dose of meth on the first day with some weed would be ok and then the MDMA on the second day? just speculation, but in general moderation is a good practice, i think.
 
Dude you cant take whizz and roll that close together its dangerous! You could end up with seratonin syndrome and a ruptured vagina. Remember only roll 6 times a year max. Never with other drugs or alcohol being consumed. Dangerous
 
Get drunk, smoke weed the first night, on the second roll bwaaaalls, crystal is nasty IMO shitty comedown, I couldn't imagine the shit of a comedown you will have if you did these 2 drugs together or even in 2 days. Do enjoy yourself though, stay hydrated if you decide to do it either way.
 
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