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Speed/amphetamine sulfate vs pharmaceutical adderall?

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onetwo

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Just wondering how these two compared between speed and adderall. Speed is very very cheap, and if I can still use doses like 40-50mg of speed, somewhat in the ballpark of adderall dosages, and at the price that you can get a gram of speed for, it makes it all extremely cheap. Just wondering if the doses would be relatively the same, if regular speed has a decent oral b/a and how the two compare as far as effects? Thanks.
 
street speed has a tendency to be impure and the chemical make up is usually racemic (equal parts left and right handed isomers). adderall on the other hand is about 2/3 dextroamphetamine and 1/3 levoamphetamine, and as a result tends to cause less anxiety. also, adderall is made in a clean lab without any traces of mercury from the ever-so-popular aluminum amalgam reduction or other chemicals (if that means anything to you).

another thing to think about is that pills tend to contain talc, so if you want to snort amphetamine, you may be better off with the street speed (from a harm reduction point of view, talcosis sucks)
 
Anybody who is familiar with meth will find themselves overall disappointed with Adderall, unless its been a long time since you've touched any sort of amphetamine. Dmytry pretty much summed it up above. Doses won't be similar at all, and the levo-amphetamine in Adderall at high doses will leave you feeling FAR different from a meth binge, nothing but zombiness and an increase in blood pressure/heart rate. It's not fun at all on the other side of the slope.
 
D-meth and L-meth vs. D-amp and L-amp

are not comparable I believed. Essentially if you're using methamphetamine, the L isomer is hardly psychoactive(used in an inhaler)

Whereas with L-amphetamine, I have experienced an unpleasant effect on CNS stimulation.

whippa craka said:
Anybody who is familiar with meth will find themselves overall disappointed with Adderall, unless its been a long time since you've touched any sort of amphetamine. Dmytry pretty much summed it up above. Doses won't be similar at all, and the levo-amphetamine in Adderall at high doses will leave you feeling FAR different from a meth binge, nothing but zombiness and an increase in blood pressure/heart rate. It's not fun at all on the other side of the slope.
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It's dependent on the individual and what their intentions are behind using amphetamine. I have found more pleasure in a 20mg adderall IR than crystal meth on many occasion. Vyvanse will always be my favorite for I do not feel different the next day if I chose not to take it.

However for redosing? Base amphetamine racemic mixture or Adderall is going to be a wild ride of over stimulation. I don't know how anyone can redose adderall more than twice.
 
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^Re-dosing Adderall more then twice? Talk about zombie-mode and just.... eww.

You are definitely a part of the minority, but then again so am I :). I like my Adderall, but would much rather prefer vyvanse (it's just so smooooth), Dexedrine is definitely a go. For the long haul I would definitely prefer Vyvanse. Not many people would agree with us, at-least that's how I feel looking around this forum.

They really aren't directly comparable. Depends how racemic each mixture is.... I don't feel like trying to figuring it out. There's too much orange to be trying to compare apples to apples.
 
I get a lot of studying done with vyvanse. It's not necessarily as recreational as instant release meds are, but the way it's metabolized leaves me feeling fairly normal the next day.

Yeah, for a long haul I can redose it a lot more.
 
Long haul I ment more by the months lol. I generally will avoid that much of a constant dosage. But 2 weeks of 30mg Adderall XR is kind of icky, vs. 2 weeks of 50mg vyvanse? Nice time-released 100% dextro-amphetamine controlled by your own body's metabolism.

Hopefully these post's are helping the OP realize the beauty of d-isomers, helping answer his/her question...
 
I don't even know where to find speed. I thought speed was adderall. I actually enjoy the d/l amp combo. Vyvance is awesome imo, however I cannot afford it on my insurance. I've been prescribed adderall for going on 3 years now. Shit is legit, i'd just go with it. At least you know you won't get any bullshit cut in the pills that you don't know about.


whippa craka said:
Anybody who is familiar with meth will find themselves overall disappointed with Adderall
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I had been doing adderall for about half a year before i ever tried meth and I was actually disappointed with the effect of the meth lol.
 
^ I think adderall is very different than meth. Meth is a super "hyper-focus", where you can get stuck in a thought process/ meaningless action. Aderall and the like are more intense of a study oriented focus, kinda enhanced computation/understanding. Idk meth seems more recreational, addictive, and less work friendly/ functional.
 
^D-Methamphetamine(desoxyn) and D-amphetamine(dexedrine/adderall/vyvanse) have a difference in how they effect various neurotransmitters thanks to the methyl group which allows it to pass the Blood Brain Barrier much easier.

Meth is different in that it effects serotonin more heavily than D-amphetamine.
D-amphetamine works on norepinephrine and dopamine release to a higher degree than meth does.

The reason why meth may seem "smoother" and less "rigidy" in a regular dose is most likely thanks to the higher serotonin release and weaker norepinephrine action. In higher doses it may seem scatterbrained and intense. Almost like a weaker MDMA.

Really, it can be used for all the same purposes that adderall can, but it takes a lot of knowledge, self control and proper ROAs.
 
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onetwo said:
Just wondering how these two compared between speed and adderall. Speed is very very cheap, and if I can still use doses like 40-50mg of speed, somewhat in the ballpark of adderall dosages, and at the price that you can get a gram of speed for, it makes it all extremely cheap. Just wondering if the doses would be relatively the same, if regular speed has a decent oral b/a and how the two compare as far as effects? Thanks.
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my experience with speed = amphetamine sulphate (street) and dextro-amphetamine (prescription med) is the former imo is better in recreative effects and as study aid but easier to overdo. Resulting in jitterness and decline of cognitive skills. The latter has little to no recreational value and it's cognitive effects are lesser then racemic amphetamine imo, but with the advantage overdoing it causes no drastic increase in side effects.
 
I am lucky to get good meth for cheap. I am also on SSRI paxil which i understand would block the serotonin action of meth.
I still however get an amazing effect from meth which seems equal in awesomeness when on Paxil or when off.
Thus i am not convinced the Serotonin effects are even noticeable. Or are they?
 
adderall is weird, like any amphetamine, once u take your recreational dose for that day, and achieve the euphoria/high/buzz whatever, you can no longer get that blast of a rush after it wears off by "resdosing", all your doing is extending the duration of the effects, prolonging the zombie-feeling, sleep deprivation, rule of thumb, if u take adderall one day, try not to redose more then 1 or 2 times that day, after that u need sleep, food, vitamins and water, and a few days break to achieve that "blast"
 
Idk... Some stims like meth and pv both have pretty good redose response. I mean obv I feel that's one reason why people binge on both of those: quite dramatically at times. But eventually after a couple days usually, the high slowly turns into a... Idk. Something that's not fun or even alright anymore... Insanity? Possibly.
 
I never experienced PV.
Though, I imagine I would favor it as a "fun" drug more so due to it's composition.

Tolerance increase happens rapidly on a binge. I do not understand individuals who go multiple days without a legitimate reason like work or school.
 
I always found meth to be more similar to MDMA than adderol when taken orally, (probably why ecstasy pills often contain meth as an additive or replacement) it has more of an ever so slight psychadelic mindfuck to it where adderol is more "clear headed" and tweakier. Also adderol makes me more anxious due to the higher release of norepinephrine.
 
Is there really a difference between speed and addy now ? Since it came out you had crystal , speed (addy) and crank (stomped shit meth)
 
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