Harm Reduction (Social) OD Social v8. Tokenname <3 XXXYYY ~ Please Report To The Principals Office.

[tentram]

so am i allowed in here if i'm tripping?

i swear i won't be too long. i'm starting to get the giggles; and the birds are calling me outside to my luxurious hammock in the shade.

 

[tricomb]

^That's not doctor shopping. I would make as many appointments as possible, there's no one looking out for chronic pain patients, you gotta do that yourself.

 

[tricomb]

basically im tired, of feeling sick and tired.

 

[tentram]

These are some really good songs. I am bored with the ones I have.

I love songs with bass. All my cars have either 12" or 13" in em. I love the deep tones.
I can wait till I hear the songs in my car.

Do you know of any other songs?

de la soul - feel good inc.

 

[tentram]

basically im tired, of feeling sick and tired.

sounds like me and my opiate cycle

 

[Jktm]

Enjoying me some acid bath...

NSFW:

Dying felt so goddamn good today
If I was ever alive well it's hard to say
It was kissing my eyelids and burning my face away
Dying felt so goddamn good today
We dance the electric Pagan Love Song
We hunt with the children paling in the catacombs
Eating dead flowers bleeding in a strange daze
I was cutting throats and eating tears
Smiling in a ruined age
Douse my love everything with gasoline
Grave flower blooms at your red light death scene
We dance the electric Pagan Love Song
We hunt with the children paling in the catacombs
Trippin' on real blood in strange sunshine
Have you felt such weight upon your eyes
Sister I been trippin' in your sky
I woke up adrift in a Technicolor bliss
Ten million miles high
I'm a Christian zombie by daylight
Satan, he come trippin' 'round midnight
Circle jerkin' redneck truckers' dream
You scream, I scream
Everybody screams for morphine
I won't love you, mama, I just fiend your morphine... your morphine
we send, the love, to the skull
I am the mother, the father, the killer
Forever and ever all right
I am the shapeless, the deathless, remorseless
Forever and ever tonight
I'm feelin' hollow again
I am the mother, the father, the killer of light
I'm gonna cut you motherfucker, God's cocksucker
all right

 

[Jktm]

basically im tired, of feeling sick and tired.

qft

 

[Thanatos]

^ well man I'm glad you're making it through, even though I know it really sucks. I was beginning to wondering if you were gonna come back to OD. I hope you find comfort soon.

Tri-same things as usual got you tired?

 

[Jktm]

thanks for the well-wishes...

BTW...does anyone know when vicodin is supposed to become C-II (a triplicate prescription)? I know that legislation has already been passed by the feds to reschedule all hydrocodone containing products...That shit sucks that it's happening...it's (was) the only full agonist left in the </= C-III category that doesn't require CYP3A4 metabolism to become active with darvon and demorol being pulled from the shelves...does this mean to only expect T3/4's from the ER/dentists office now? lol

 

[tricomb]

WHAT???

Are you fucking serious? link me please to something showing hydrocodone is being bumped up to CII. That's fucking bullshit.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

The entire controlled substances act is bullshit.

 

[tricomb]

This is all I could find.

http://politics.heraldtribune.com/2012/08/12/buchanans-pill-mill-legislation-stalls/

Actually: http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/08/governor_signs_into_law_databa.html

EDIT: Fuck yeah captain.heroin, it's just another way for pharmaceutical companies, corporations, and the government to take peoples money and with it, their livelihood, which is easily discounted by the money. Don't get me wrong, I love my country, but it is seriously flawed and needs improvement in so many ways, and we're moving in the total wrong direction with controlled substances these days.

When would the hydrocodone supposedly go to CII?

 

[Captain.Heroin]

This is all I could find.

http://politics.heraldtribune.com/2012/08/12/buchanans-pill-mill-legislation-stalls/

Actually: http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/08/governor_signs_into_law_databa.html

EDIT: Fuck yeah captain.heroin, it's just another way for pharmaceutical companies, corporations, and the government to take peoples money and livelihood. Don't get me wrong, I love my country, but it is seriously flawed and needs improvement in so many ways, and we're moving in the total wrong direction with controlled substances these days.

When would the hydrocodone supposedly go to CII?

A congressman/senator going all rampage on the status of hydrocodone reminds me of the movie Thank You For Smoking.

THE GREAT STATE OF VERMONT WILL NOT APOLOGIZE FOR ITS CHEESE!

 

[Jktm]

I'm not sure, but it's all over chronic-pain forums such as pharmer.org...I'll grab some of the links I read off there a few months ago...just give me a second...

Also...on the topic of the CSA...does anyone know of any benzodiazepines (although I think all of them are C-IV) or barbiturates that aren't controlled so that I can suggest a gaba-ergic to the psych for insomnia? gabapentin doesn't get me anywhere near sleep lol...

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Also...on the topic of the CSA...does anyone know of any benzodiazepines (although I think all of them are C-IV) or barbiturates that aren't controlled so that I can suggest a gaba-ergic to the psych for insomnia? gabapentin doesn't get me anywhere near sleep lol...

If you're going to the psychiatrist for insomnia, can't you get them to prescribe you scheduled benzodiazepines?

As for insomnia medications that aren't scheduled, but are prescription drugs, albeit not a benzodiazepine, I would suggest hydroxyzine hcl (atarax).

 

[iheartthisthread]

i saw doctor shopping up thee page a bit...
My gf has been accused of this too. Seriously, it`s fucked up... They want you to bow down and take it dry... I asked the last one when he said that if when he had his house built if he consulted more than one contractor. He looked at me with a dumb look on his face. I told him he would be pretty dumb if he didn`t get more than one price. He agreed. I said whats so wrong with trying to find the right doc? He shut up, but he`s still an asshole.
/ rant.

What`s up guys?

 

[Jktm]

I don't think hydroxyzine will work very well for me...and I'm not actually going to a psychiatrist...I'm in an outpatient program and the M.D. doesn't like to Rx controlled medications unless you already had a Rx for them...He got me up to a seroquel dose of 200mg at night and 50mg in the morning for anxiety, but it was causing more severe anhedonia than I was already experiencing, so I quit taking it over a weekend (he wasn't pleased with this because I didn't talk to him about a taper or anything, but I had only been back on it for two weeks, so I said fuck it)...What irritates me about that is that Astra-Zeneca got in trouble for advising doctors to Rx it for off-label purposes such as anxiety and insomnia, yet they continue to do so...I just got out of the shower, ran to go get smokes, and am just now looking on pharmer for the web-lit on the rescheduling of hydrocodone combination products, so I'll have those posted in a few...

But ya, even with me taking 200mg quetiapine fumarate at night along with (I tried it up to 9mg despite the lack of clinical significance of doses over 3mg) melatonin and 200mg of diphenhydramine hydrochloride...

 

[tricomb]

Don't knock hydroxyzine hydrochloride until you try it.

 

[Jktm]

On the topic of hydrocodone's rescheduling to C-II in all forms, here's the link to the discussion on pharmer.org I was talking about:

http://www.pharmer.org/forum/discus...eds/hydrocodone-going-schedule-ii-narcotic-us

Here are all the links listed in the discussion that work still:

http://www.pharmacist.com/senate-passes-hydrocodone-rescheduling-amendment

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/06/...painkillers-may-face-tougher-fda-regulations/

http://www.nabp.net/news/amendment-...ule-ii-controlled-substance-passes-us-senate/

It's basically to target the trafficking of hydrocodone...cause tougher penalties...as far as abuse goes...that show House didn't exactly help matters by portraying the protagonist downing handfulls of them...I wonder how many paracetamol overdoses that show caused...

So basically, they want to be able to hold drug dealer's on their first offense of getting caught trafficking vicodin for up to 20 years as opposed to 10 years...

 

[Jktm]

How similar are the sedative/hypnotic effects of it (though as a non-CS drug I imagine it's not really looped in with hypnotics) to other anti-histamines like promethazine, cause that shit doesn't put me to sleep either...I just know gaba-ergics do well with letting me get to sleep...I'm not supposed to be drinking while in this program, but said fuck it when they were bitching about me taking the equivalent of 12 benadryl a night to get to sleep and was actually able to get SOME sleep with a four loco...isn't it bad when that much becomes a night cap for you? lmao

btw: has anyone ever heard of a mu-/kappa-/sigma-RI? I bet if combined with a full agonist it would help a lot with improved analgesia as well as lower abuse potential (WHEN COMBINED) as reuptake inhibitors tend to drown out the euphoriant effect of releasing agents when combined (i.e. cocaine and MDMA)...