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So Who Likes Benzos? Ver III: Blackouts and Amnesia

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^ Benzos and alcohol get messy quickly for me, as belarki and lefty can attest to. It's ou about moderation, but when you are already out of it you don't have a second thought about what might be over the top. :\
 
xtc123 are you sure there's no alcohol you like? There's a lot out there to try. I definitely enjoy the alcobenzo combo but moderation is definitely key.


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when you are already out of it you don't have a second thought about what might be over the top. :\
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Benergy said:
xtc123 are you sure there's no alcohol you like? There's a lot out there to try. I definitely enjoy the alcobenzo combo but moderation is definitely key.
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yeah, don't really like any man, prob could do a yagabomb or 2 but that's bout it, I like weed alot more.

had 30mg of the temez, was alright for few hrs, wore off now, didn't think it was this short. least ill have a good sleep tonight. prob should of went with 40mg at once.
 
Mmm. Xanax. I can not county how many times i have taken them. First time was when i was 19 (and am 23 now) with an ex. I have social anxiety disorder and my it certainly helped. I found once i did atleast 3 bars (and i was started doing atleast 5-8 a few times a week for a while) i would ALWAYS blackout and i couldnt remember anything the whole night, or only a little bit that was very fuzzy. Oddly, I LOVE that effect. I just...love it.
 
I did 30mg of temaz last night too. Also did 100mg of doxylamine. Still took me ages to get to sleep :(

If you can handle a couple of yagabombs before dosing, I'd give it a go :) Particularly with the clonaz.. you should get a good buzz off that.
 
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^ Benzos and alcohol get messy quickly for me, as belarki and lefty can attest to. It's ou about moderation, but when you are already out of it you don't have a second thought about what might be over the top. :\
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hey, it was queenslands 6th origin series in a row, you were celebrating. i find myself in the same boat on occasion, obviously.

how do you really think i split my eye open the other week? "there were 3 of them and only me" makes for a better story than "i tripped over my shoelaces and fell down a flight of stairs" having no recollection of it.

i prefer to take a single benzo at a time for the most - the exception is if opiates come into the equation :\ -, throw some alcohol in if i want a little potentiation and synergism though at (mostly) responsible amounts. these amounts are going to differ from person to person due to metabolism, tolerance, etc so i won't go making arbitrary dosages up but do take it nice and slow if you're going to mix booze and benzos.

if i were naive i wouldn't drink anymore than 1-2 standard drinks with 20mg diazepam (my preferred and most used) in my system. i can think of better ways to overdose than asphyxiate on my own vomit after passing out.
 
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Temazepam and alcohol = blackout central.
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+1 agreed and also what M_B said. To all the Greenlighter's out there, benzo's are really quite safe! Where you can (or go so far as to say will) get into trouble is poly-drug use! Now, I'm not saying I a saint - I've had my fair share of black outs - just posting a friendly warning. It can get hairy! :|

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What's peoples opinion on Xanax Vs Clonazepam? Is clon just as effective for comedowns? What's more effective for insomnia?
 
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What's peoples opinion on Xanax Vs Clonazepam? Is clon just as effective for comedowns? What's more effective for insomnia?
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they both are so different, but both will do a good job for come downs. its always gonna come down to personal preferance with something like this.

if you want to relax and sleep asap, go the xanax, 2mg. if you are around people and still want to socialize etc, a small dose of clonazepam is your best bet... maybe 1mg, no more than 2mg especially if you arnt experianced with benzos. if uve been drinking be very careful.

to me, xanax is definatly better for what i think you are asking for, sleep as soon as possible after a big night? just remeber, everyone is so different when it comes to benzos especially. ive seen people take 4mg xanax and appear normal yet 2mg clonazepam has them fucked, and vise versa.

OTC sleep aids alot of the time work better and are much less addictive, look into promethazine and doxylmine maybe.

fucking xanax, im rabling ;)
 
Yeah, Xanax is a solid downer, but clonazepam, you can put the pill right under your tongue, let it dissolve and it will come up faster. Because the onset of action of orally ingested clonazepam is much longer than that of short acting Xanax.
 
Man, starting to have a bit of trouble with the benzos. For the past year or more, I was addicted to opiates up until maybe April of this year, when I got help at a Suboxone clinic (I'm still trying to finish my taper - down to 0.5mg Suboxone, but feeling constant W/Ds even with it). I have a prescription for 2mg of Xanax daily, and it works great for my anxiety, but lately while trying to taper down from the Sub, I've been doing 2-10mg of Klonopin daily, and I'm worried that I might be picking up a bit of a habit. 6mg of Klonopin, 2mg of Xanax, and 6 drinks will have me feeling sober and calm, but no buzz. I'm wodering if it's more important to start dropping my benzo dose or to stick through this until I'm off of the Suboxone. This is a tough one. But as for the basis of the thread, I've liked benzos ever since I started using them with opiates back in the day. Prior to that, they just made me pass out and I felt no effects. Right now on 4mg of Klonopin I believe, and am having an extra dry Everclear & Kool-Aid drink.

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What's peoples opinion on Xanax Vs Clonazepam? Is clon just as effective for comedowns? What's more effective for insomnia?
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Xanax is a lot more hypnotic and sedating than clonazepam, while clonazepam has a longer-lasting anti-anxiety effect. Either one of effective for comedowns, although to me personally Xanax is close to twice is strength of Klonopin (mg for mg). Xanax is definitely the better choice if you just want to get to sleep fast. If you want a long night's sleep, the clonazepam should work, but it won't have that "knock out" effect of the Xanax.
 
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Yeah I find the cognitive/memory issues are the biggest problem with benzos. More so with xanax than diazepam though (only tried those two). If youre in a chilled state and not trying to think too hard the 'day-after' xanax fuzz/fog can be quite enjoyable ... but if you need to do some serious mental shit, or you have some unresolved shit pulling on your anxiety strings it can be a little uncomfortable... and the urge to reach into your stash draw can be hard to resist.

As an aside though, I had some dexies last week, the day after over indulging on xan and was feeling down right euphoric. The xanax hangover seemed to be suppressing any potential stim-related anxiety while at the same time the dex seemed to be doin' their thang and allow me to get totally absorbed in a 2-3hr vid game session.
 
Clonazepam is great, had a low dose of MD last night, came down after a couple hours and started feeling on edge, took 2mg of clon and within 30 mins i was back in a good headspace, dancing all night long and had an amazing sleep. Feeling great the next day. I've also gone out clubbing purely on clon with a couple drinks and it's also been a great night. Awesome stuff, much prefer Clon over Xan.
 
I would take clonazapam ANYDAY over xannax... the euphoria and long lasting effects definantly put it ahead of alprazolam by far in my books. If u want to sleep just take a lil more clonaz than xannax.. you will wake up feeling a million bucks!
 
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I would take clonazapam ANYDAY over xannax... the euphoria and long lasting effects definantly put it ahead of alprazolam by far in my books. If u want to sleep just take a lil more clonaz than xannax.. you will wake up feeling a million bucks!
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I'll have to put my vote in for Clonaze over Alpraz. Especially for come downs! Clonazepam puts me in a dumb, chilled, relaxing state without making me pass out (like Aplraz does). Plus the long half life is always nice!
 
first time on clon last night, wooo, it loved it, goes fkn great with weed. not even sure what i took tbh, either 4mg or 6mg over the night. def into benzos now lol

i woke up @ 3pm, thinking it was saturday.. had argument with gf bout it not being Sunday, look at my pc clock -Sunday- WTF????
 
Hmmm.... will have to give Clonazepam a try. So you guys really think it superior to apraz as far as euphoria goes? Even gives you that weighty muscles/limbs senstation where you can feel it in your whole body rather than just your mind?

A side question... anyone ever feel that the effects of diazepam feel less pronounced after using aplraz for a while? I dont seem to be finding the effects of valium to be as pronounced as I did before taking xannies for a couple weeks. Didnt think there was any cross tolerance there?
 
^ There is cross tolerance between all benzo's it just isn't 100% in relation to equi potent benzo doses. Personally I have never found the effects of diazepam to be lessened by xanax use but my valium use has probably always been equal to or greater than my xanax consumption. It isn't overly surprising this might happen as xanax is quite a bit more potent and aside from potency many would probably consider it to be a less subtle buzz than diazepam as well.

Personally I prefer clonazepam to alprazolam pretty easily, but despite the fact that clonaz is technically more potent than alpraz I can take a similar mg dose and the xanax will have me more messed up.
 
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