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So Who Likes Benzos? Ver III: Blackouts and Amnesia

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Pegasus said:
Clorazepate is very good as well, it is somewhat mild in effects and works great if you want more of a drug that works in the background. It also has the virtue of being one of the less addicting benzos.
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That not exactly true. Where I live, dipotassic clorazepate, aka Tranxene, comes in 50mg tabs, and is extremely powerful.

It tends to disappear, but it was all the hype in the 90's here, with all the junkies swallowing the thing by the mouthful.
 
Well my doctor did. Mr blonde how much codeine u using daily now days?
I would IM it depending on how much u got and how much more you can get.
No point wasting 10mg nasally but IV that and it might knock you out. I know it takes heaps to knock me out over 60mg IV but my tolerance is high. But being knocked out on it is no fun you just go to sleep which is a waste imo.
Midaz is a great mixer cause you can quickly boost your other sedatives.
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I'm not using codeine daily anymore; every few days I use around 2.2 grams. So I will be careful if I mix them together.

I will probably only be getting this one lot of either 5 or 10 5mg vials.
 
Sorry off topic. But while we're on the subject just quickly.

I've never taken codeine or done a cwe before having easy access to OC.
30mg of OC would equate roughly to a 300mg dose of codeine correct? Just wanna make sure.
 
loulou reed said:
That not exactly true. Where I live, dipotassic clorazepate, aka Tranxene, comes in 50mg tabs, and is extremely powerful.

It tends to disappear, but it was all the hype in the 90's here, with all the junkies swallowing the thing by the mouthful.
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I'm curious your take on it as not many people here have taken it.

Do you think it is more powerful, less powerful, or about the same when compared to most other benzos? 50mg is a lot, equivalent to around 2mg clonazepam/ 35mg diazepam by most comparisons. I'd personally compare it to a slightly milder version of diazepam with somewhat unique effects. I know you and I talked about this drug once before with us both agreeing that is a pretty good benzo.

FWIW, the addiction potential is definitely lower than many other benzos. This is partially why I consider it more benign.
 
p-man said:
Sorry off topic. But while we're on the subject just quickly.

I've never taken codeine or done a cwe before having easy access to OC.
30mg of OC would equate roughly to a 300mg dose of codeine correct? Just wanna make sure.
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I have no idea what the equivalent of 300mg of codiene ~ xxmg of oxys would be but 30mg woud be a nice dose.. how are you havin it?
 
^300mg codeine is roughly 50mg hydrocodone orally which in turn is roughly 33mg oxycodone orally.
 
Cloraz is not available in aus any more and there is not real need for a weak partial agonist like cloraz when diazepam has the same metabolite i believe dimethyl-diazepam.
I find all diazepam metabolites weak as this includes temazepam, oxazepam, etc.
 
Can vouch for the notion that alprazolam taken before codeine seems to blunt the high. Took a couple xans a few hours before sitting down to watch a movie and have some codeine. 560mg codeine didnt hit me anywahere near as much as expected. And its been over 48hrs since I last had any so I was expecting more.

Ahh well. There are other variables of course... sometimes I just could not be fucked with the cwe thing so I dont take as much care as I should and today was one of those days. Didnt refilter the sludgey pill mass either with probably resulted in some codeine loss.
 
So the general concensus is that lorazepam has more recreation value than diazepam? Of is that just a Mr. Blonde thing? ;)
 
depends on tolerance it seems.
i havent tried it, but from what mr blonde is saying is that its more of a combination of diazepam and alprazolam, i've no idea of the strength of the properties though.

even with quite a tolerance to alprazolam, i still find 10mg of diazepam relaxing and pleasant which i didn't expect as temazepam still does nothing to me on its own.
i wonder if i would have the same experience with lorazepam...

i've been enjoying temazepam and alprazolam lately (not uber regular), 4mg alpraz with 40mg of temaz tonight, movies are looking good lol.

perhaps lorazepam could be close to this combo as well.
 
I may be biased as diazepam is my favorite benzo, but yeah, I really didn't care for lorazepam, especially when compared to diazepam.
 
^ Don't you just blackout with this sort of mix? I should try mixing my benzos, but I don't wanna end up sleeping. No fun in sleeping.
 
reading through these posts. Looks like i'm one of the few who use benzo's for sleep.. hehe ↲
thank for the reply pegasus!
 
pinkanga said:
Can vouch for the notion that alprazolam taken before codeine seems to blunt the high. Took a couple xans a few hours before sitting down to watch a movie and have some codeine. 560mg codeine didnt hit me anywahere near as much as expected. And its been over 48hrs since I last had any so I was expecting more.
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Yeah I hate this. I've made this mistake two... no, three times now. Twice with codeine and once with oxycodone. Dosing alprazolam before and being under the influence of it when the opioid hits just blunts the high and each time I kick myself for it. :\

pinkanga said:
So the general concensus is that lorazepam has more recreation value than diazepam? Of is that just a Mr. Blonde thing?
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Belarki seemed to like it too. ;)

Preference is a personal thing of course, and as I've said the reason I liked lorazepam is that it has muscle relaxant qualities that I thought were better then diazepam, and I almost found the lorazepam itself to be almost euphoric which I don't really get from diazepam. Both are very relaxing of course, and I do like diazepam as well.

I don't like alprazolam that much, but I have access to it at the moment so I've been using it. My tolerance to it has been rising, and it's amnesiac properties can be problematic. In fact, I will share with you all a cautionary tale:

On Wednesday night I used some alprazolam, then some oxycodone, drank some alcohol (I don't drink often) and then had MXE via the IM route. I went home, feeling very out of it and nodding out. Went to bed, then apparently started having convulsions, myoclonic jerks and my teeth were apparently smashing together so hard my girlfriend was worried I was going to shatter them. My breathing was then very low as well, so she threw water in my face and shook me and after half an hour I gained consciousness and then spent half and hour sitting on the toilet trying to urinate while she was in tears about my state. I don't remember a thing though. I just woke up with a headache and found out my girlfriend had called in sick to work for me as obviously I was in no position to go.

So there you go, be careful with poly-drug use. I should have known better then to mix all that, but I've been making some bad choices lately.
 
Scary stuff ^^^ Good to hea youre ok though.

In my frustration last night I took another couple apraz's mid movie to try and salvage what was left of the night (and codeine), with a plan to play some LA Noire on 360 a little later (it was actually about the time I was posting here last night).

Needless to say I woke up at 3:30:\ Nodded nicely until about 4:30 before I garnered the energy to get and go to bed.

Pleasant enough nice I 'spose.... but it felt a little like a wasted night (and resources).
 
What are some other people's views on triazolam? I had it last night for the first time coming off a LSD trip and it put me to sleep very easy. Very good stuff imo.
 
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