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So who likes benzos? El Benzo Threado Spectacularrrr 2nd Edition

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Benzo addiction sucks balls. VERY hard to get through withdrawal.



Why_not ? said:
Yeah I just need to do some more reading, finding the time for me is the problem. How long can I expect to get away with abusing the Diaz before I run into trouble ? I own my own business and get 1 day off a week if I am lucky. My problem is I need to escape reality but I have lost my usual contacts so prescription drugs seem to be my only option for now. I love good LSD but havn't had any that I would call good since I was at school, had "tables and chairs"(anyone remember them ??) and the old style "stawberries". I did some work for a particular MC club but that particular chapter broke up and I lost contact with them, I'm pissed off. Though the trips I got didn't do a great deal for me, not like the one's I mentioned. I have a few questions actually, should I start a new thread ? Or just ask them here ?
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Listen man if you're taking drugs to escape that's NEVER a good thing. Benzos aren't that good for that purpose anyway. I'd talk to a GP, then see a counsellor. Talking things out helps, it really does.

Ask away mate, most users on here will give you best advice they can to their knowledge.

And in my honest opinion, if you're trying to 'escape', LSD is the WORST drug you can take.

If you're really uncomfortable, go see a GP, tell them how you're feeling and that you want sessions with a counsellor - but you also need something to help with your constant anxiety attacks ;)


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I wanna talk upcoming unscheduled benzos. Phenazepam, Etizolam, Triflubazam to name a few recent unscheduled RC benzos. What's next?

I heard there's places in China that'll make up any synthetic chem you place an order for and ship it right out. Doesn't sound hard to believe at all. But you gotta be willing to order at least a kilo.


I doubt anybody's heard of any new RC benzos readily available or ready soon?


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Phenazepam - My opinion? Very very smooth. I have a huge benzo tolerance.

Normally I'd use a 5ml barrel and a 27G needle. I dissolve my Phenazepam in Propylene Glycol 2mg/ml now it's up to 5mg/ml. Tolerance to this substance develops really fast so be mindful, especially if using semi-daily. I hate anxiety.

For a nice 10mg shot I like to load a 5ml with 2ml phenaz solution, 1ml pure alcohol and 2ml saline or sterile water for injection. One or two mg shot through a 1ml barrel takes the edge off but I'm seriously dependent after a month of solid use.


Random questions:

1. What's the highest dose you've banged?

2. Do you find it mild and like it creeps up on you then all of a sudden you find yourself addicted?

3. What other benzos have you tried/banged?

4. Who else bangs Phenazepam?


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I've actually never met anyone that sold benzos or any other pharms (more's the pity). In my experience benzos are mostly sold by people who are also in the heroin / opiates scene. If the people you know are more into weed, ecstasy etc, then benzos and other pharms are difficult to come by.
 
Right, fair enough. I guess that's just where I came across them back in 'the day.' Sadly 'the day' has past and I've been disconnected from any real drug scene for a couple of years. Makes it hard to get anything or to know the lie of the land. I miss my occasional diazepam / nitrazepam / oxycodone sessions but sadly pharm dealers aren't everywhere like weed dealers are.

Still, from what I remember benzos were rife in the opiate scene. People with scripts all over the place all ready to sell them for a quick whack. And the effects are complementary too, even if it is dangerous to combine the two.
 
^ Yeah benzos and opioids are a great mix, but there are other places to get them. :)

I've never really been part of any 'scene'... but I haven't had that much trouble getting them when I need them. You just need to talk to people, get out and make contacts... honestly that is what I should be doing since I've lost just about all my contacts!
 
I was recently prescribed oxazepam (25 X 15mg) as I have anxiety issues when it comes to flying (leaving for Germany soon). Obviously I don't need all 25 of them so I thought I'd give a go at using them in a recreational manner.

I have NO experience with benzodiazepines. As this is a first time dose what would you guys recommend? The only experience I have with depressants is codeine. (CWE - The highest dose I've done with that was 250mg).

Would it be a good idea to perhaps double drop them - 30mgs?

Would it be recommended to mix them with perhaps a cone or two?

Just trying to gage an understanding here… Feedback is MUCH appreciated.

Thanks people.
 
20mg of oxazepam is equal to about 10mg of diazepam, though this can vary among different people of course.

Two should get you relaxed, probably a good start for someone with no experience with downers as such.

I don't smoke cannabis anymore so can't advise there, people seem to like the combination though. :)

For what it's worth, I liked oxazepam.
 
I was on 1mg Xanax for about 8 months until Xmas i started to binge maximum 2 and half milligrams until last week i decided to taper down without a target. Thank god i kept some old 0.5mg and 0.25mg bars for emergency which has helped me without any issues at all but i regret asking my doctor for 2mg scripts because that's when i started to binge. Some of you may not believe this but when i cut the 2mg in half and compare it with 1mg dose the effects are slightly different.

Day 1 Half of 2mg + 1mg = 2mg
Day 2 Half of 2mg + half of 1mg =1.5mg
Day 3 Half of 2mg = 1mg
Day 4 0.5mg + 025mg = 0.75
Day 5 0.5mg
Day 6 0.25mg
Tonight = Undecided i still feel a bit hasty.
 
@ Self-Aware. I have been to seek help, not sea kelp. Have got some anti-depressants, and cut down/out the Benzo's which were nice for a while. Found out something very interesting from the Doc while I was there. I have some liver problems (a "fatty liver"), enzime count of >550, should be <50. What I didn't know was if you have liver problems alot of drugs do NOTHING !! Apparently your liver is required to metabolise the drugs properly to in order for them to do give the effect they are supposed to. This includes trips, Stilnox (I took 30mg + 20mg of Diaz one night and still laid there wide awake). I didn't understand this untill I told the Doc and he explained it was because of my liver !! Fuck I'm glad I went, got to lay off the piss and have changed choleserol meds.
 
Shit mate, sounds it was worth the visit. Maybe I should give my GP a call and get my liver checked too.

(prescription) drugs will help man, with your depression, but you gotta see counsellors and tell them what's going on in your life. Anti-depressants DO help, but if you line up some therapy it's like coffee n cake. (wow what a really strange metaphor) It's really that simple. Works wonders for me or I'd be pushing up daisies and I still see counsellors regularly.

Keep positive man, it gets better :) things always do.

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Xanax vs Valium

took 0.75mg of Xanax (supposedly same as 30mg of Valium)

and it hardly does anything to me. Are these conversion tables correct?

If I had taken 30mg of valium I'd be a mess but now i feel almost normal....like after 6mg of valium....IT IS SOOOO WEIRD!!!!
 
^ In my experience that dose is more comparable to 7.5mg of diazepam. I generally see the equivalency between diazepam (valium) and alprazolam (xanax) listed from .5mg of alprazolam being the same as anywhere from 5-10mg of diazepam and personally I find 5mg the most accurate.

If .5 of alpraz was the same as 5mg valium then 2mg xanax bricks would feel like 40mg valium and to me they feel more like 20mg, perhaps 25mg, of valium.

If 30mg of diazepam has you a mess then 2mg of alprazolam might be a good starting point, as it should be slightly weaker than 30mg of diazepam.
 
^ What d_m said. I don't know where you got your figures from, What was it?, but according to the benzodiazepine equivalence chart I am looking at 0.75mg of xanax would be equal to about 15mg of diazepam or so. Of course it varies for people, as d_m has testified.

For me I think 10mg for 0.5 is about right.
 
For me I think 10mg for 0.5 is about right.
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Fucking A. Split a quart bar-tab of Alprazolam, pop that shit under my tongue, feel nothing, same as Diazepam 10 mg or even 15 mg.
 
Self-Aware said:
I wanna talk upcoming unscheduled benzos. Phenazepam, Etizolam, Triflubazam to name a few recent unscheduled RC benzos.
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These are already scheduled (under analogue laws). Well I know for a fact Phenazepam is. Afaik Etizolam is too. And tbh haven't heard of Triflubazam. =D

Mr. Squiggle! said:
... feel nothing, same as Diazepam 10 mg or even 15 mg.
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Actually me too! I find sub-ling diaze has a much reduced affect then PO.
 
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