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so this spice(legal high)stuff?

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I used to love Spice, but my relationship with it turned sour recently. Ended up fiending on the stuff constantly and upon cessation found myself going through withdrawal. Major cravings, sleeplessness, irritability, depression, loss of apetite, the works. This went on for approximately 1 week.

I think I'll stick to the real deal in future.
 
I've been talking about Spice Gold. I would like to know how the different products are, though.
 
I smoked Spice, Spice Gold and Spice Diamond daily for a year. It's bad, bad stuff in comparison to Cannabis. It's true that you really can't beat what naturally grows out of the ground. Spice has synthetic cannabinoids in high amounts. I decided I needed to stop at the end of last year and when I did I went through some unpleasant withdrawals; hot/cold sweats, no appetite, no sleep, depression, dysphoria, dire memory etc etc.

Just take it easy if you're going to toke it.

I've never touching that stuff again. I stick to weed now.

EDIT: Just realised Tenchi wrote exactly the same!
 
Tenchi said:
I used to love Spice, but my relationship with it turned sour recently. Ended up fiending on the stuff constantly and upon cessation found myself going through withdrawal. Major cravings, sleeplessness, irritability, depression, loss of apetite, the works. This went on for approximately 1 week.
I think I'll stick to the real deal in future.
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dont sound to nice imo.

i've seen this stuff all over the place, i normally stay away from legal highs tbh for a few reasons

1) they normally do nothing to you (apart from salvia which i think is the most evil trip ever that plant has a SERIOUS darkside to it, i also found lsa to work too.)
2) if a "drug" is under the UK's Misuse of drugs act (as im from the uk) it means in my logic there has to be something in it thats worth trying.
 
gezgin said:
I smoked Spice, Spice Gold and Spice Diamond daily for a year. It's bad, bad stuff in comparison to Cannabis. It's true that you really can't beat what naturally grows out of the ground. Spice has synthetic cannabinoids in high amounts. I decided I needed to stop at the end of last year and when I did I went through some unpleasant withdrawals; hot/cold sweats, no appetite, no sleep, depression, dysphoria, dire memory etc etc.

Just take it easy if you're going to toke it.

I've never touching that stuff again. I stick to weed now.

EDIT: Just realised Tenchi wrote exactly the same!
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Just chiming in that I too, experienced nasty ass withdrawals from Spice Gold.

I smoked it multiple times a day for around 2-3 months.

Withdrawal was about a week of nausea, excessive salivation, anxiety, and insomnia.

Never again. You can't beat nature. Never had any withdrawals from cannabis in over 10 years of usage far heavier than I used spice.
 
U seriously got withdrawals from using spice?? hmm i just bought a gram of this stuff called "Dream" (Made by London Underground) and it defiantly has some kind of synthetic cannabinoids in it
 
Damn I had no idea about withdrawal symptoms related to the JWH RC's.

Anyone else experience them? I've been using Arctic Synergy for about 3 months using multiple times a day with a water pipe. I use daily so I do not know what I will experience when I stop it. I was a daily user of cannabis for 8 years prior to my switch due to drug testing and my connection left town.

I thought it was a great substitute at the time but now I'm wondering. Guess I will have to take a day off and see what happens. I'll report back what I experience :|
 
I've been using blends for at least a year, stopped multiple times, and have never experienced a withdrawl symptom. I have been smoking jwh-018 on its own reccently and I can tell you is amazing, but you have to watch your doses very carefully.
 
Thank you theotherside that is comforting to hear that not everyone is experiencing these symptoms!

I'm not sure if this is related but after a heavy day of usage (usually on weekends) then the next day my short term memory isn't quite up to snuff and I may experience bouts of anxiety for no reason, although I have an anxiety disorder so I cannot back up that the JWH is responsible. Like otherside also said, dosing is very important and you must be careful, too much is not pleasant. I thought I would also note, that the shake on the bottom of spice packets is A LOT more potent than other parts so obviously the JWH could sink to the bottom, so just be careful everyone.

But otherside since you are using the pure form of JWH then that basically proves that W/D will not necessarily affect you if it even exists- especially since you have used for a year. The spice blends contain much less JWH content (2% for Arctic if I recall, 0.5% for gold) than dosing the JWH straight up yourself so that is good news anyway :)

The only other scenario I can think of is if some people are getting hooked on the plant matter inside the spice blends. Sounds benign since these are natural plants like blue lotus so I don't think that is it either but you never know. None of this has been tested properly by a professional chemist so it is simply all speculation.
 
Bardo5 said:
States are banning salvia one by one. And the research chemicals you mentioned can be deemed illegal under the federal analog act. (as can jhw-018 I believe)
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They have not been scheduled further and at current time do not follow under the Federal Analogue Act. As to any of the JWH-XXX series cannabinoid agonists, they can not fall under the Federal Analogue Act, as they are not analogues of any illegal substances, they are simple CB1/CB2 (cannabinoid) agonists.



As to spice, it contains JWH-018.
 
A few months back i smoked a bowl of spice diamond that a friend of mine was ranting and raving about completely underestimating it at the time. My memory of the experience is a little hazy but this stuff is no joke, imo its much more potent than weed although I wouldnt say that its better. Might order myself a packet now lol :D
 
Guys, anyone knows what is current status of jwh and jwh products (spice, etc) in USA?

I am going to US soon and thinking about taking some Genie mix (r u familiar with it?) with me.
 
fre4k said:
Guys, anyone knows what is current status of jwh and jwh products (spice, etc) in USA?

I am going to US soon and thinking about taking some Genie mix (r u familiar with it?) with me.
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Many of the vendors will not ship JWH-XXX to the United States (not exactly sure why), but none of the JWH-XXX pure material/products are controlled in the United States (so you can legally do whatever the fuck you care with them).

If you're not buying pure JWH-XXX (which I reccommend), then I would go with Spice.
 
I mean natural cannabis is awesome. but most people dont have the option. I tried many of the different types. Here is the list from first smoke to what i currently buy. it started with original spice
then budda, then pep spice, then emerald spice, the last 2 had the best taste and were not as harsh as the others. emerald is stronger then pep some ppl get too high off of it.
 
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