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Misc So I'm an idiot and am considering consuming this nutmeg I have...

Ganj

Ganj

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Most people are aware that nutmeg can produce a mild hallucinogenic experience. Although most people never do it twice due to the nasty come down and side effects. This relates to me as mushroom season is over here, and the only drugs available to buy are bud and stuff like kat, cocaine, and various other spiritually insignificant synthetic substances and I'm eager to continue my psychedelic quest. Experience wise I am fairly confident with strong shroom trips and have smoked stupid amounts of weed in vague attempts to re-create shrooms to no avail.

ANYWAY im 16, 120lbs and have had this bag of grounded nutmeg sitting in a drawer for probably 2 years, never seriously considering consuming it until now. Am i going to need fresh nutmeg? can anyone recommend a dosage? im thinking around 4-5 table spoons. Is there any chance of me smoking it? As that would be a lot easier.

I am aware this isn't really going to compete with shrooms, and that I will regret doing it after but I'm still curious enough to try this.

Thanks
 
how many reports have you read about nutmeg which include details of a spiritual experience? in fact do yourself a favour and if you havent researched the drug, read at least 10 erowid trip reports on nutmeg

for me i had 26 grams which i will admit for my body weight was a very high dose, but it felt like i had poisoned myself, and any positive effects were GREATLY outweighed by the negatives

if you still decide to go ahead with this, weight it out and start with 10-15 grams for your first time or in general, or lower, for me it lasted 3 days and was extremely unpleasant

i gained no spiritual insight and it was a dirty toxic high i never repeated, this is coming from someone who has done dxm over 20 times probably and nitrous oxide over 20 times as well (both of these drugs are as readily available as nutmeg* and i am quite sure they are less harmful to your body)

4-5 table spoons is too much imo, it tastes like the devils dick as well, fuck ever eating that shit again, the smell of nutmeg has made me gag ever since i tried it when i was 14

fresh nutmeg>dry nutmeg, its also stronger, but will need to be ground in a coffee machine to a fine dust, to ingest it parachute it in a layer of kleenex
 
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Have already read a large amount of erowid reports, various CEV's where mentioned which I sort of associated with psychedelics ie. spiritual significance. Thought process was if weed induces a 'deeper thinking' then nutmeg may do the same thing but better. Still considering it, but perhaps in a light dosage. Thanks for the insight.
 
CEVs do not mean spiritual significance at all, i was seeing geometric patterns on nutmeg and it did not leave me with anything to think about except (oh thats pretty, which is hard to appreciate when you are vomiting your guts out for a couple hours straight)

weed and nutmeg have some relation chemically but only similar in the sense they have similar side effects (red eyes, cottonmouth, nausea at high dose) and share the stoned feeling, fyi nutmeg did not produce and abstract thought or deeper thinking on my part at all during the entire experience, it might have made me think deeper about my use of things i could get my hands on to get high i guess
 
Ok. Thank you for the info (and the patience + restraint hehe) Pretty sure i can quench this dumb urge with a low dose. I currently do not have access to accurate scales. So in tablespoons, can you estimate a threshold and light dose?
Thanks
 
i liked this quote i found based on your question, i included all the health side effects bcus its true

"The perceptible dose is 5 to 15 grams (1 to 3 ground nutmeg seeds). It is a carminative in a dose of 0.03 mL. It is used as a hallucinogen in doses of 2-4 teaspoonfuls or greater than 2 whole nutmeg or 18 grams of fresh ground nutmeg. Effects begin in 3 to 6 hours but may be delayed 8 hours after ingestion and the duration is up to 60 hours. Effects are similar to LSD. Toxicity produces dry mouth, GI upset, abdominal pain, agitation, tremors, feeling of impending doom, delirium, psychosis, and coma. It is reported to produce miosis or mydriasis, hypothermia, hypotension. Cardiovascular effects including chest pain, palpitations and mild hypertension have been reported. One fatality reported in an 8 year old boy who ingested 14 grams was reported in 1908. Severe reactions with shock, hypotension, cyanosis and hypothermia may occur with very large amounts ." I had to look up carminative, miosis, and mydriasis, by the way.
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i dont think you will have visuals on a low dose, and a high dose is srsly unpleasant, so much so its hard for me to put into words

having said that i would recommend you try 10 grams for your first time which is apparently approximately 3 whole nutmeg seeds which have been ground up, if that exceeds 2 teaspoons it could be a good idea to cap it at that

from reading other blers experiences with this drugs, less is definitely more when it comes to nutmeg, this also accounts for why many people have such a deep hatred for it, kind of like salvia which has a following who like its effects in the subtle dosage range

glad to be of assistance, i wish i had this information when i tried it for the first time, you have good initiative asking about this before just swallowing what some other guy took on a TR and hoping for the best
 
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salvia ends in 30 secs. op, if this really is a dysphoric unpleasant experience that lasts a few days, please reconsider. real drugs will be available sooner or later.
 
2 tablespoons sounds good. Ill see if i can be one of the first to actually come out on an advantage from nutmeg. Will probably consume before bed, then wake up slightly 'stoned' on Christmas day. That sounds fun :) . Hope i dont spend crimbo pucking my guts out but we will see.

Will post results
 
i said teaspoons... please read this before you take an overdose of nutmeg, i guess i made the mistake of not making it clear that 4 tablespoons could lead to a coma or death...

for perspective, please read this trip report on erowid which states in the dosage information that this person took 3 tea spoons and said "Now getting REALLY tense about the trip. Have I damaged my brain completely? When is this thing going to be over. I have a couple of get-togethers lined up for Friday evening, but I'm sure I'll be fine in another 2-3 hours. "

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=22160

or even better take another experienced poster's advice (stray cat) and dont let ur curiosity kill a cat's future fascination in groovy drugs because you thought a deliriant would be enjoyable whilst you have no access to classical recreational drugs...

also i dont know why that quote said its similar to LSD because ive had both and i would only compare them as being almost polar opposites, one awesome and the other poisonous shit, maybe 0.5% of the people who take nutmeg enjoy it
 
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Just consumed 2 table spoons of nutmeg a few minuites ago. Mis-read on my part. Perhaps i could induce vomiting? If i am in any form of danger please let me know.

Edit: Mmk, just rammed my hand down my throat a few times, was very unpleasant but lots of nutmeg came up... I really need to pay more attention to detail or im going to die ODing on something in the future. Doubt i even consumed enough in the first place to do any real damage. dont think anything will happen considering how much i just vomited but ill tell you results...

I read that report earlier today, guess im just too stubborn to say no haha
 
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Dude there's no excuse for consuming nutmeg. If you have access to the internet buy some RC's, ones like 4-aco-dmt which are rather safe and are actually capable of producing insightful experiences. If you don't wanna order RC's then even DXM is a far better choice, anyways have fun on your nutmeg 'trip'.
 
I am aware of DXM and DMT, and if i had access to ordering stuff i would never get bored enough to try nutmeg. I have this kind of idea that if i back down from doing a drug then i am not mentally strong enough take proper psychedelics. That does NOT mean i will never back down from taking drugs, but i want to experience everything which unfortunately includes nutmeg :) Have somehow convinced mother to order me kratom for xmas, so thats next on the list.
 
In what way? You were told by multiple people that this will end badly yet you still ignored their advice, fucked up the dosing to boot, and now you will suffer.

You talk about wanting some snobby spiritual bullshit yet you act like a stereotypical junky who will take anything to get high. It's people like you who are the poster child of the "drugs are bad mmmmmkay?" proponents.
 
I was told there are negative side effects and therefore lowered the dosage. I agree it was very stupid to miss read tea as table, and i agree that is the kind of behaviour that damages you. If i suffer i will be stronger as a result, and somewhat wiser.

Describing any spiritual yearning as 'snobby' is simply stubborn. There is half a gram of mephedrone in my book case. If i was this stereotypical junky then i would probably of snorted that instead of eating poison. Also i think you need to consider that drugs are actually bad, they do ruin peoples lives, and that they are illegal for a reason and unless your amsterdam you probably cannot get away with tolerating drugs. YOu seemed to have a lot of anger previous to you entering this thread.
 
Nutmeg consumption isn't going to lead to a coma or death unless you're consuming several pounds of the stuff. No need to be a bunch of scaremongers. More importantly, no need to jump down this guy's throat for choosing a less than popular drug. Let's play nice here.

Nutmeg may not be the most pleasant high ever, but it's not going to kill you and is nowhere near as reckless as taking drugs like datura/jimsonweed or diphenhydramine. Fresh nutmegs are best, ground powder has a tendency to lose potency as the oils evaporate out of it. I prefer to just gnaw on two or three fresh nuts meg, consuming them over about an hour or so.

2 tbsp of old dried nutmeg may or may not be enough. Nuts meg are apparently 5-10 grams a piece when dried, and powdered dried nutmeg that has been stored for longer than a few months will probably be weaker than the fresh nuts. Despite what you've been told, 2 tbsp is probably not an overdose, depending on if those were heaping tablespoons or not.

The experience is pleasant enough if you take it with a grain of salt, don't make too many plans, and aren't expecting an ultra-intense hallucinogenic journey. As long as you account for the long onset and duration (can take a few hours to set in and the intoxication can last for a good 6-8 h if you take enough) it's not likely you'll get permanent damage of any sort. treat it like ultra-potent pot brownies or something.

Maybe I am just a filthy nutmeg apologist. It's a not altogether unpleasant experience in my book, but I also do ccccraaaaazzzzy things like take caffeine as a stimulant, something the Bluelight crowd seems to agree is nothing but a pure anxiogen with no utility at all... different strokes for different folks.
 
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Thank you for the re-assurance. To be safe i vomited up all i could after learning i had over shot what mystarie had recommended, so i doubt i will get any effects. If i dont then at some point later i shall buy some fresh nutmegs and attempt again...
 
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