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So ill be doing ketamine for the first time...

Ganj

Ganj

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So everyone i know has got into ketamine, its meant to be pretty cool but i have a few questions... Im not new to psychedelics, smoked a lot of weed leisurely and done shrooms on several occasions, and i am quite comfortable with around level 4 trips (very strong and obvious hallucinations, ego splitting objects morphing etc.) so presuming my first time is probably going to be the best i want to go quite deep. Ill be paying *no price discussion, read te rules*, not sure if thats right or not, but i have been told a gram is a large amount and it will go a long way. I will be snorting in my house with a few friends, also there first time on ket, and my shroom companion who will also want to do quite a lot. Anyway...
Is *no price discussion, read te rules* over priced? and is a gram going to give 2 people a decent time and 2 others a nice buzz?
How can i tell i am actually getting ketamine before i hand the money over?
How much would you recommend a first timer with a lot of experience with tripping and how much would you recommend the other 2 who just smoke weed and have experimented with small doses of shrooms (20 caps or so)?
All info helped, am happy to write a report on how it all went, i know people like that :)
Thanks
 
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Ketamine is a dissosociative while it shares certain aspects of psychedelics keep in mind it's going to be a very different experience than say mushrooms or lsd. If you are new to it I'd start pretty low like a 10-15mg bump wait for it to fully peak to see how it effects you then redose if you're ok. It's not gonna kill you but can be pretty intense and catch you off guard if you are new to it. The duration is pretty short the main effects last around an hour so if you accidentally take too much it's not like your in for a very long ride. The only way to be sure it is K is to have them test some of it with a test kit in front of you or get it in a sealed pharmaceutical vial.

Weed goes great with it but it can really intensify the trip so I'd see how you react to it without weed then if you do smoke with it only do a small amount until you are familiar with how what dose effects you in what way.
 
I don't think you can talk about prices here

A gram will go a long way if you have no tolerance to it. But it is the kind of drug where before you know it a gram is just a good couple hours
I would not start off at around 10-15mg, I don't know if that's even a threshold dose. If you have decent stuff and want to go deep then with no tolerance line up a point and a few bumps of 50mg, have the point, wait 10-15 min or so, and add the bumps as you need them. Assuming this is at like a house or something or some other environment where you can be almost completely unable to interact with reality

edit - for the other two just bump 50-80mg at a time I reckon
 
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The answer to a number of those questions depends on purity and tolerance. If you get good stuff then starting with 15-20 mg is definitely not a bad idea. It kicks in pretty quickly so there is absolutely no shame in it and it allows you to gradually test out the waters so that you can gradually and comfortably shift into the effects. That is best for a beginner because if you take a lot more very fast "just to be sure" it is possible you won't know what hit you and that is not helpful if you want to learn how to gauge the dose better next time.

Pure ketamine could get 4 people that far yeah, though the question is for how long, if only for a few hours 50-100 mg per person can be a very decent buzz and the rest could be enough for 2 people to K-hole on or get moderate to strong effects for the good part of an evening.

To test for the identity yeah you would need a reagent kit, and to check the purity even that is not enough and you will need a lab. Always start extremely low to be safe, just in case it is a different and much more potent substance. When you acquire it you could snort a little bit or it to see if it makes you feel funny, uppity, silly and/or wobbly.

Here is the first time ketamine thread:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=460208
 
Ketamine is often crystal-like. More so than other powdered narcotics. It will almost look like salt, think grainy.

I forget the smell. It's been a while. I can tell you though, it has a some what bitter taste, if I can remember correctly.

If it appears to be very fine, snow-like than I'd be put off an wouldn't think it was Ketamine.

Ketamine, when cooked into powdered form, always ends up being very crystal-like. It's appearance always made me look at it and think "Yeah, that can't be good for my nose" lol!
 
Not a reliable ID but yes JW, ketamine has quite the tendency to form translucently and sparkly microcrystalline instead of very opaque white and a classic cottonball or cloud like feature of appearance referred to as fluffy. It can be if it is intentionally ground which they might do to hide the fact that it is cut. Indeed, whenever I have pure K it is sparkly as microcrystals like fine tablesalt or large crystals like course tablesalt or sugar. And when I got cut K it is virtually always fluffy powder like flour.

This is a close-up picture of ketamine crystal illustrating this point (pretty awesome if I say so myself):

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There's not that much of a smell but the taste reminds me of hospitals somehow and gives me a yucky shuddery feeling and the urge to cough briefly and in duplo (oddly enough), and a friend of mine reported the exact same reaction. On the other hand IMO it is less bitter or unpalatable than the majority of other drugs!
 
Yeah that ketamine drip is in its own league in terms of tasting horrible and making you shudder, though after a while your brain will start associating it with the delicious high that shortly follows, and often the k will kick in before the drip, meaning you probably won't even notice the drip
 
Ah sorry for mentioning prices i will avoid that in the future. Pretty sure its going to be cut with an arsenal of nasty substances considering location and how many people it will of gone through. Ill start low to sure safe, and go up throughout the evening. How long does one recommend waiting between re-doses? With shrooms ive never known as they can take between 1-4 hours to properly kick in making accurate re-dosing really hard, Is K like that?

Thanks all for the input.
 
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Ah sorry for mentioning prices i will avoid that in the future. Pretty sure its going to be cut with an arsenal of nasty substances considering location and how many people it will of gone through. Ill start low to sure safe, and go up throughout the evening. How long does one recommend waiting between re-doses? With shrooms ive never known as they can take between 1-4 hours to properly kick in making accurate re-dosing really hard, Is K like that?

Thanks all for the input.
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Naw redosing on k is easy.
But remember, you begin to feel the effects in a few minutes, but the full effects don't hit you until maybe 15-20.
Too many times I've thought I was peaked, did another bump, and woke up a couple hours later with no recollection of what happened
 
I think Ketamine is one of the easier drugs to dose, as it kicks in very fast so you know quite fast if the dose is right. You don't accidentally start redosing thinking it doesn't work. You feel it almost immediately. It just requires many redoses if you want to enjoy it for many hours, as it wears off so quickly.

Also, Ketamine, even after taking it for 12+ hours, wears off very quickly and I feel almost sober a few hours after the last dose without any lasting side effects. Although I'm more than aware that recreational use of K is not exactly healthy (possible bladder issues with heavy use), it's always felt very benign to my body.
 
Other thing im overly worrying about, any chance of me having some sort of undetected heart problem? I know its irrational and risk will always be associated with drugs.
 
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