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So I tried 7oH....Meh

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Psynaught

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So I tried 7oH last night and was not that impressed. It just kind of made me feel dull and stupid. 4.5 grams of Kratom on the other hand makes me feel good and energized, although not really high.

I chopped a 30 mg Opia Pink Strawberry (they test at 27 mgs) in half, and then chopped that in half and took the smaller quarter. I did not chew it just swallowed it. 40 minutes later I felt just a little something so then bit part of the remaining quarter and chewed it. 30 minutes after that I felt high but it was nothing great (like Oxy) I just felt dulled. I then took the rest. It gave me a numb feeling that reminded me of SOMA.

I suppose if you just want to escape (which would require a larger dose) it would be good for that, but as far as a ephoriating high I give it about a C, maybe c plus.

I was underwhelmed.
 
Interesting update: My normal 4.5 grams of Kratom (that I have been taking 5 days a week for about 3 years now) did not seem to give me the mood boost it usually does. My normal routine is a brutal workout (as hard as my old body can stand) then I come home and with dinner have my 4.5 grams of kratom. Then I take my bath, and an hour later I have the energy to take my dog on a bike ride. Didn't have any energy tonight.

I wonder if taking 14 mgs of 7oH last night caused that?

Welp, going to wait a few days and then maybe try the 7oH again. I probably should not have purchased 20 pils, LOL.
 
Opia I believe is a smokeshop brand? You have to go with an online vendor. I've had some of the best 7oh for pain relief and for rec use that have came from online vendors. Alot of smokeshop are underdosed or just purely bunk.
 
darkroom said:
Opia I believe is a smokeshop brand? You have to go with an online vendor. I've had some of the best 7oh for pain relief and for rec use that have came from online vendors. Alot of smokeshop are underdosed or just purely bunk.
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The Opia was tested by a third party, the 30 mg tabs tested at 27 mg, much better than most. I am sure I will find more kick if I increase the dosage, something I will try in a couple of days. It has been 2 days so I want to wait a couple more days.

It is just that the high I got did not quite match the hype...of course the standard for me is Oxy, which of course can't be beat by much anything, IME.
 
Update: I've had this nagging knot in my back (I am a bodybuilder) that was really killing me last night, in addition to my painful Plantar fasciitis. Normally 4.5 grams of kratom is enough to deal with the fasciitis, but I was not feeling any relief from my back so I took a Soma and had half of a 27 mg 7oH tablet.

Oh boy did I get significant pain relief. And the addition of the Soma made it a really good high. I ended up taking another half Soma (160 mgs) plus the other half of the 7oH and I was feeling no pain whatsoever.

So 7oH is a very effective pain medication. The only problem now is I still have a painful knot in my back. If I repeat last nights therapy I am for sure on my way to addiction.
 
I’m new to Kratom. I ordered some red online and they included a 50mg tab of 7oh. I was pretty hesitant to try it cuz it purports to be strong so I split an 8th off. So 6.25mg. Felt nothing. So I had a quarter the next day, 12.5mg. Felt nothing. I wanna try a half. 25mg but people say it’s a lot. Are there any realistic risks to taking 25mg? Or is the potency overrated?
 
StampJones said:
I’m new to Kratom. I ordered some red online and they included a 50mg tab of 7oh. I was pretty hesitant to try it cuz it purports to be strong so I split an 8th off. So 6.25mg. Felt nothing. So I had a quarter the next day, 12.5mg. Felt nothing. I wanna try a half. 25mg but people say it’s a lot. Are there any realistic risks to taking 25mg? Or is the potency overrated?
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Who knows, maybe it's a bunk pill. There aren't much in the way of manufacturing standards, no FDA ensuring anything is what it says it is. But do you have a pre-existing tolerance to opiates? That would make it not work as well. Also, how is the kratom working for you?
I've tried very low dose 7oh a few times, lower than you took and I felt it. But I also don't like it that much, I prefer regular kratom. Low dose kratom ( 1 or 2 g) is more pleasant to me, more energizing, more mood enhancing.
 
Psynaught said:
Interesting update: My normal 4.5 grams of Kratom (that I have been taking 5 days a week for about 3 years now) did not seem to give me the mood boost it usually does. My normal routine is a brutal workout (as hard as my old body can stand) then I come home and with dinner have my 4.5 grams of kratom. Then I take my bath, and an hour later I have the energy to take my dog on a bike ride. Didn't have any energy tonight.

I wonder if taking 14 mgs of 7oH last night caused that?

Welp, going to wait a few days and then maybe try the 7oH again. I probably should not have purchased 20 pils, LOL.
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Tolerance gains are crazy for 7-OH, you’ll be fine and I think a quick break should keep your Kratom back but if you keep playing with it, you may cause permanent adaptions not worth it imo.
 
StampJones said:
I’m new to Kratom. I ordered some red online and they included a 50mg tab of 7oh. I was pretty hesitant to try it cuz it purports to be strong so I split an 8th off. So 6.25mg. Felt nothing. So I had a quarter the next day, 12.5mg. Felt nothing. I wanna try a half. 25mg but people say it’s a lot. Are there any realistic risks to taking 25mg? Or is the potency overrated?
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I've never tried it but throw it in the garbage
 
Psynaught said:
So I tried 7oH last night and was not that impressed. It just kind of made me feel dull and stupid. 4.5 grams of Kratom on the other hand makes me feel good and energized, although not really high.

I chopped a 30 mg Opia Pink Strawberry (they test at 27 mgs) in half, and then chopped that in half and took the smaller quarter. I did not chew it just swallowed it. 40 minutes later I felt just a little something so then bit part of the remaining quarter and chewed it. 30 minutes after that I felt high but it was nothing great (like Oxy) I just felt dulled. I then took the rest. It gave me a numb feeling that reminded me of SOMA.

I suppose if you just want to escape (which would require a larger dose) it would be good for that, but as far as a ephoriating high I give it about a C, maybe c plus.

I was underwhelmed.
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You're not taking enough of it to feel a good effect. A quarter tablet to a half a tablet is nothing. When I take 7oh I usually take 2-3 tablets at once. Trust me once you get into that zone you're going to feel it
 
opiatekrzy said:
You're not taking enough of it to feel a good effect. A quarter tablet to a half a tablet is nothing. When I take 7oh I usually take 2-3 tablets at once. Trust me once you get into that zone you're going to feel it
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Because I don't want to get any more addicted than I already am. I take 3 grams of Kratom 6 days a week. I used to take 5. Twice a week I will take some 7O. I do have stronger pills, some 60 and 80 mgs. I can def feel a quarter of one of those. On the day I don't take any Kratom I feel crappy and get a runny nose. I also have a pretty major surgery coming up so want to be super careful with opioids.
 
Psynaught said:
Because I don't want to get any more addicted than I already am. I take 3 grams of Kratom 6 days a week. I used to take 5. Twice a week I will take some 7O. I do have stronger pills, some 60 and 80 mgs. I can def feel a quarter of one of those. On the day I don't take any Kratom I feel crappy and get a runny nose. I also have a pretty major surgery coming up so want to be super careful with opioids.
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I think that's wise. Few things, cuz I'm just jumping in. A lot of these companies don't make the best product, COA's can be skewed, especially as the analytical labs performing them generally aren't regulated like a lot of Cannabis testing companies.

I found it very euphoric but only really in the beginning, while it does get me high, and kratom sorta kinda does, after taking 7-OH for weeks, I noticed a) I could take more and more, but really lost the warmth. I actually started at 7mg and that rocked me. I even found it a bit psychedelic in the beginning which also disappeared pretty quickly. As a chemist, I made a bunch of this way early on (I might be partially responsible for its boom sadly). It's not difficult if you can source pure mitragynine. But yeah I kinda pushed the envelope, I had a bunch on hand and took about 20g in 30 days, mostly oral but I would also smoke it. Smoking it brought back the warmth and euphoria for a minute but it's the worst idea, because I found that to be very compulsive, and it's way less bioavailable so you actually get a lot less per mg. It also lasts 4590- minutes instead of 3-4 hours. I also noticed as my tolerance increased the duration decreased. When I first took it, I was rocked for easily 5-6 hours. But after tolerance, it was 3-4.

My advice would be to stop taking it. You'll slowly drop back down to baseline tolerance and the plant will start working again eventually. It just may take a while.

My ex-gf owns several kratom stores around the country and we've discussed this (and other kratomaloids). She stopped carrying 7 because people were coming into her shops, fiending and it just wasn't the look she wanted for her store. We've both kind of come to the conclusion that 7 in a weird way is actually more addictive than traditional opioids, because it's a lot safer. You can take a ton, and keep taking keep taking it. Heroin will kill you eventually so you have to meter it to some extent. With 7, it seems like there is no ceiling.

I must be lucky, because the worst part for me stopping was the anxiety over not having any. I didn't really get any noticeable withdrawl, but that last little bit, I was so worried that I'd be a kratom junky later that day. Fortunately it just never happened.
 
Didgital said:
I think that's wise. Few things, cuz I'm just jumping in. A lot of these companies don't make the best product, COA's can be skewed, especially as the analytical labs performing them generally aren't regulated like a lot of Cannabis testing companies.

I found it very euphoric but only really in the beginning, while it does get me high, and kratom sorta kinda does, after taking 7-OH for weeks, I noticed a) I could take more and more, but really lost the warmth. I actually started at 7mg and that rocked me. I even found it a bit psychedelic in the beginning which also disappeared pretty quickly. As a chemist, I made a bunch of this way early on (I might be partially responsible for its boom sadly). It's not difficult if you can source pure mitragynine. But yeah I kinda pushed the envelope, I had a bunch on hand and took about 20g in 30 days, mostly oral but I would also smoke it. Smoking it brought back the warmth and euphoria for a minute but it's the worst idea, because I found that to be very compulsive, and it's way less bioavailable so you actually get a lot less per mg. It also lasts 4590- minutes instead of 3-4 hours. I also noticed as my tolerance increased the duration decreased. When I first took it, I was rocked for easily 5-6 hours. But after tolerance, it was 3-4.

My advice would be to stop taking it. You'll slowly drop back down to baseline tolerance and the plant will start working again eventually. It just may take a while.

My ex-gf owns several kratom stores around the country and we've discussed this (and other kratomaloids). She stopped carrying 7 because people were coming into her shops, fiending and it just wasn't the look she wanted for her store. We've both kind of come to the conclusion that 7 in a weird way is actually more addictive than traditional opioids, because it's a lot safer. You can take a ton, and keep taking keep taking it. Heroin will kill you eventually so you have to meter it to some extent. With 7, it seems like there is no ceiling.

I must be lucky, because the worst part for me stopping was the anxiety over not having any. I didn't really get any noticeable withdrawl, but that last little bit, I was so worried that I'd be a kratom junky later that day. Fortunately it just never happened.
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Great points! Yes, in a way it can, I think, be more addicting, mainly because it is so short acting. I have been good all week, it is Thursday and I have not taken anything since Sunday. Sunday I too 1 Mexican Fent, one real American pharm 30 mg Oxy then about 15 mgs of 70. I spaced each one out about 45 minutes. It was a great little buzz, especially since I had not slept well. I have been good the last 4 days, only taking 3 grams of Kratom a day.

I love reading posts like yours because it keeps me from abusing the stuff, and I am in a good amount of pain (I need a shoulder replacement that I am trying to put off till the end of summer).
 
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