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So I I like weed but....

Yeah, something similar happened to me when I was smoking bud every day and then took a break. The first few days of the break I would have anxiety, insomnia, and loss of appetite (couldnt eat too much at once). Then after about a few days of the break the bad anxiety passed but the loss of appetite didn't. I do have anxiety naturally and marijuana seemed to make it worse when I wasn't high, it had always calmed me and taken away my anxiety when I smoked. I'm no longer a daily smoker, just on weekends now, the insomnia eventually subsided and Im able to handle my anxiety much better. I still have issues with my appetite though, I can't eat nearly as much as I should be, I've lost so much weight because of it and at this point it's getting bad. I got tests done and everything, I don't have any of the disorders my doctor thought I might've, no thyroid problems, hormonal/chemical imbalances, acid reflux, GI/digestive disorders. And I really don't know what it could be. I'm going for more tests eventually but it may be a while. For now I'm trying to eat more frequent smaller meals, which seems to work well enough.
 
I've been smoking for 8 years now, the past 4 years of that all day, everyday (to the point where weed was ingrained into every activity-- weed before shower, weed before food, weed before sleep, weed before work etc). I get the same symptoms -- can't eat, can't sleep, constant boredom, desire to smoke, profuse sweating etc. The sweating and boredom are for sure the worst for me, but I get over it after 3 days.
 
Draind said:
i smoke spliff (tobacco and cannabis) only, and am in the USA, PNW
its not the norm, but there are circles of spliff smokers, more or less in the reggae-hippie circles.
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This is the very 1st time I've ever heard of someone in the USA mixing weed & tobacco. I quit cigs 5 yrs ago, after almost 40 yrs of smoking. I'd NEVER smoke a joint/spliff/blunt that had tobacco in it. I'm 1 of those that after quitting the cigs, I can't stand the smell.
 
Draind said:
tl:dr, (re-read some)
i smoke spliff (tobacco and cannabis) only, and am in the USA, PNW
its not the norm, but there are circles of spliff smokers, more or less in the reggae-hippie circles.

when i stop smoking for acouple days, cold sweats, 2 hours sleep cycles, lack of appetite.
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I've spent days, up to a week on end with 40 -60 year Rastafarian's eventually leading to lifelong friends on their home-turf. But have never witnessed or heard of this type of use w/ tobacco...let alone a pinch of Indica in their usual larger than thumb spun spliffs.

And believe me when I say you will understand within 24 hours why cannabis Sativa is thee spiritual strain
...and spirituality has nothing to do with fables, heavens & hell
 
This is interesting... This is the most ive even ever heard thru my entire life of people having PHYSICAL/physiological symptoms.

I started smoking pot around 12 years old. the everyday(or as close as possible) started at around 15-16. I am 27 now, and still smoke EVERY SINGLE DAY.
The ONLY time ive gone more than a day w/o smoking was a trip to Atlanta GA back in summer 2004. It was for about a week, and all i experienced was pretty heavy psychological w/d(more or less in part due to pre-exisiting anxiety). in fact the more active i was the less i noticed. zero physical symptoms. Ive never missed a day since. usually i smoke at least every few hours or so.

With that said... I am currently on a taper from bupenorphine(suboxone/subutex). I am on about .75 mg right now once daily. I have been an on again off again(mostly full time ON) opiate addict since about 18. heavy opiate use tho for about the past 3 solid years. In fall 2011 i started a 8-9 month run on bupe(12 mg split in two doses daily), w/o relapse. Shitty doctor screwed me over and i tried to quit. Didnt work good, especially having my dieing ex girl(rip) living with me and she had opiates to spare. so long story short i got REAL bad addicted till about a month ago. Started at about 6-8 mg of suboxone and have been tapering ever since.

Now that ive read these claims of physical POT addictions its making me wonder... I seem to W/D from opiates VERY VERY VERY hard. Much harder than anyone else ive seen with close doseage. Like for instance right now im profusely sweating and have horrible cold chills. When i smoke pot AFTER taking my bupe it seems to help greatly in staving off the physical symptoms. My sub doc always warned me not to smoke BEFORE i take my sub. he didnt have much of a prob with me smoking tho... he even chewed me out for not having my med card at that time.

Im starting to wonder if the pot has something to do with my heavy opiate W/D. Can anyone shed some light on this subject??
P.S. i smoke everything from full indy to full sativa and all the hybrids in between... the hybrids seem to help W/D the best.
 
squidhead said:
This is the very 1st time I've ever heard of someone in the USA mixing weed & tobacco. I quit cigs 5 yrs ago, after almost 40 yrs of smoking. I'd NEVER smoke a joint/spliff/blunt that had tobacco in it. I'm 1 of those that after quitting the cigs, I can't stand the smell.
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Really? I haven't smoked pure green by myself in nearly 3 years.... Granted, I'm the only person I know that chops his stash regularly but yeah... us Americans do it too. I'm a pretty poor sum bitch, so I mix the tobacco in to stretch the stash and to save a little bit on cigarette costs. I mean, it's pretty nice when you can get your nicotine fix from a hit off of a bowl.
 
Physically addicted - yes but the addiction is over within a week, after that it is purely psychological. That's how benign weed is. 10 days at most - I would say you'll probably have nightmares, you will definitely get the insomnia. But your tolerance will disappear and it will be much cheaper to smoke, and more enjoyable once you get used to your heart rate feeling like palpitations.

Force yourself to eat - it's mind over matter bruv.
chrisalt said:
I'm 25 and have been smoking for 11 years. from 17 on and working fulltime since i have had access to money. been smoking anywhere from 2-4 grams a day. In bongs...My point for this thread is to ask all of you if you have ever become addicted physically to weed? I hear it already... Fuck off troll etc. but I have to say I'm expirenced with all drugs minus heroin or the any Iv ROA. Probably only because I just know Iv is an inevitable disaster waiting to happen. im just saying I have lots of experience with cold turkey w/d that can kill you quick and I'm not some pussy that thinks theres nothing worse out then just really annoying weed w/d.

During my 11 years I've taken breaks here and there for say a week at a time to go down to the USA etc but when I do I find myself screwed. I'm a big guy at 6'2 210 ish and depending on how long I'm without my ever 4 hour weed sessions(I smoke to much I know) i actully get ill for about a week. it's been 36 hours since my last toke and I can't eat anything(and I Love food I have to watch myself what I eat and lift weights so I don't become a fatass). i can't sleep and my anxiety is much worse then normal. Also I'm getting these chills..

Does this bs happen to any other long term smokers ? This has happened to me b4 but I just had a few drinks for 5 days straight and I was ok. I can't do that because im on a stable dose if benzos now and I don't mix alcohol and pills but that's another story.

Thoughts anyone?
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That's all very common - those are pretty much the only symptoms of physical addiction you get with weed. That's why I loe it - it's so easy to give up, if your mind is strong. Your body will follow easily.
 
I actually went through that phase one year ago, for about two months straight. Can't remember that much of it! xD
One friend of mine was actually going through it a while ago, but he didn't want to admit it.
He smoked 3 grams of high thc/ low cbd containing weed a day and mixed it with cigarettes.
He says he doesn't smoke tobacco out of principle, he doesn't want to smoke cigarettes because he thinks it's a superfluous thing to.
Today he is trying to smoke less, from 4-9 joints per day, to 2 to 4 joints per day...
Well, it's still a fairly large amount in my opinion.
 
Yes. When you stop smoking abruptly you generally lose your appetite and may experience insomnia.

I don't see what the big news is, haven't we all known this since like middle school? Lol.
 
I am 24, been smokin for a decade, heavily addicted for about 5 years.

I occasionally get the desire to quit or cut back, only to rediscover that I can't, due to physical problems (but I consider the cognitive problems worst of all... It may be 'all in my head' but the depression is unavoidable and a direct result of neurochemical imbalance, so I consider it just as physical in nature as the gastrointestinal problems i also experience which are caused by down regulation of cannabinoid receptors in areas of my body other than the brain
This is what I get for a week and after that it's just constant everlasting cravings:

Depression, worsened anxiety, lethargic... Won't leave bed, total lack of appetite, insomnia, anger outbursts... I feel very, very 'dope sick' gastrointestinally... I basically just feel like SHIT and smoking a hit cures everything

All of this keeps me using weed on a daily basis, but you're only going to get fucked over and have your life fall apart when your stash runs out and have to deal with fucking MISERY if you are using 2-4 grams a day or so, day in day out, you're one of those stoners like me who makes it a point to be stoned for every minute of his existence and smoke much more than is required to be a little high and smoking again before I even start to come down. What I try to do, is use as little as possible and only take hits when I need to. I still use pretty much all day, but with a little bit of 'self control' (not really since quitting is out of the question I become a basket case...) I can get away with using about 1 gram a day. Then I don't get as dope sick, otherwise I want to put a bullet in my head it's so fucking bad
 
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For me, cannabis withdrawal is literally a mild form of opiate withdrawal albeit with a twist. Hot/cold flushes, pains and aches all over my body, constant diarrhea, total loss of appetite, insomnia, extreme RLS, profuse sweating (especially during the night, my bedstuff never gets completely dry before next night), heart palpitations... basically everything weed intoxication causes except in reverse. On top of this there's ofcourse the mental side of things, depression, anxiety, cravings and quite astonishingly even increased paranoia which I relate to increased anxiety (I have other mental health issues as well). I have had absolutely zero problems 'quitting' any drug there is as long as I allow myself to smoke weed. To quit smoking weed on the other hand is like the most difficult thing there is for me. Quitting nicotine? No problem. Withdrawals from a small opioid binge with bupe or oxy? No problem. Alcohol? Give me a break. One joint after few weeks of successful abstinence from cannabis? Instant relapse, can't sleep the next evening unless I smoke again and I'm terrible dealing with insomnia.

What annoys me the most is people who don't believe me or call me a liar. After all, I'm talking about the effect cannabis has on my body, not some general physical properties of the cannabinoids in the plant or whatever. It's fucking ridiculous how people see weed as this miraculous wonder herb that cures cancer and saves kittens from trees, resulting in happy happy joy joy for everyone and thus it is not allowed to say a single negative word about it ever, anywhere. It's the ultimate depressant for me, no opiate can touch that and no other drug has the same instant good-night effect as cannabis.

Oh and yes, I forgot to mention, I get really, really aggressive during cannabis withdrawal.
 
Someone made a good explanation in a similar thread to this.

Basically, if you do something for long enough every day then suddenly stop it's going to feel weird.

Just like on drugs, you build up a "tolerance" to life, you get used to it. Then you start using weed everyday so much that you're probably stoned more than you're sober. If you do this long enough, you get used to being like that. The moment you stop using, you feel like you did before you used weed, but the feelings are extremely exaggerated because you've lost your "tolerance" for life, which ends up causing physical symptoms due to psychological addiction, but not true withdrawal from physical addiction.
 
Ya, I believe its placebo. I believe your thinking that u are withdrawing mentally because whenever i try to quit (been smoking 10 yrs), I also have a hard time eating (couldn't even look at awesome food like pizza hut), sleeping. BUTTTTT, their was this one time in HS that i had a "realization", that weed was not the right way to go and stopped smoking for 2 months. At that point I was smoking 3 yrs daily. That time, I WANTED to stop smoking and my mental state was way different. I had zero issues that time, therefore I do believe it is how you think of the situation.
 
this is all physiological... i would be sick as hell. i think most who experience the "w/d" from weed have more than likely been on opiates before. people forget, or dont even know, that cannabinoids are used in the brain similarly to opioids. My bupe doctor warned me about this. he said never to smoked before dosing. he was cool with me smoking otherwise, and even suggested i get my card.
 
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