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So I fell for another druggie, I guess

RobotRipping said:
really though people are incredibly complex. Someone you can trust right now could totally fuck you over at any time. It's a risk and in your case a big risk. I agree with you about being sensitive and feeling people's energies and just knowing that they are good or bad people but that exact intuition has led me to be fucked over because there are people who manipulate others by doing this very thing (portraying themselves a certain way). I even do it sometimes without noticing.
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Yes, it happens, because people can have different sides to them. Someone who can be very aggressive and mean can also have a genuinly friendly side, and when they show themselves from that side they might be only feeling these feelings and you'd never expect the other side to them. So to be subject to a violent assault by them would come as a complete shock.

I have come across some people like these but it's not really the norm. Most are more even-tempered than that. They can swing a bit between kindness and aggression, but rarely anything extreme or dangerous.

So that's all I mean. What he might be capable of doing as a result of his addictions and other miseries is another matter. But that's not to say he would mistreat a girlfriend, for instance. And I'm quite a good judge of character and would say he's the nicest person I've met in the drug scene so I think you're taking it a bit too far.
 
Jean-Paul said:
girl, don't you know sociopaths are the most charming people? you sound like an easy mark. hopefully he doesn't take you for all you're worth.
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SOME sociopaths are incredibly charming - a very dangerous combination. I've been fascinated by some myself because of their alluring qualities, like great cleverness, intense emotions and ability to connect with people, and often even a very strong loving side.

But he comes across to me as the opposite of that. Just a normal, nice guy who's lost his way in the drug scene. Sure there must be many like that here so I feel this is a bit hypocritical. I mean, how many here have been addicted at some point and having to turn to selling or other things to get by. Doesn't necesseraly make you a monster, does it.
 
Aww pet - I think you need to get a hold of your emotions. THis coming from someone who has had their emotional state as their achilles heel for a long time - I reckon your "heart| line" would be your dominant line in your hand - tone it down, take a step back and see things how they really are. You sound lonely. WOrk on yourself, you will find these guys drain you of all your sweetness.
 
Ninae honsetly it sounds like your mind is made up. Everyone has warned you to tread carefully, but it your going to do whatever you think is right. Just please be careful and if you do decide to pursue something with this guy tread with a cautious foot. I know you are "floored" by your feelings just try and remember that strong feelings can sometimes fog our judgement. The last thing we want is for you to get hurt whether it be emotionally or physically. Be safe.
 
Oh thanks, but I think I'll be okay. And I don't have to be lonely, my semi-boyfriend called me up 3 times today but I didn't feel like picking up. Can't seem to get any joy out of him anymore. I just miss being in love, or I feel isolated, and find it hard to resist. But no worries, I'm not going to give him any opportunities to rob me, and we live 8 hours apart so our contact will probably be sporadic and quite brief. I'm just enjoying having him in my life all the same and it's always quite a mindblow to suddenly find a new person in your life you have strong feelings for.
 
Ninae,
Please listen to all of us when we tell you this guy is bad news. (We all can' t be wrong.) It seems you want to "fix" him, but some people can' t be fixed. He is waaay too suave, too much of a smooth talker. Not to mention his reference to having had experience as a child, eleven no less, with the occult. Now that is something you don' t want to mess with. It' s too much like the Mafia: once you are in it, it' s almost impossible to get back out. If you do manage to disentangle yourself, it' ll cost you. Either this guy has had that type of involvement, or else he's schizophrenic, as has been suggested. You really really need to put as much distance between you and this guy as you can. You should change your phone number, and under no circumstances should you ever give him your address. I understand he' s good looking and knows all the right words to say, but those are huge red flags to older, more experienced folks. There will be other handsome men. Please let this one go,or I suspect you may be very sorry one day that you didn' t.
 
Thanks for the advice, but I'm not really expecting a relationship between us. Probably just a passing infatuation. He already has all my contact information, etc. but it's not like his mind is set on me. He just welcomed me into his life, and I suppose been talking to me in a semi-flirting way. Like when we met he asked my age and he kind of talks like he's trying to flatter me, etc. but I feel he means it too.

And he must have many girls who likes him, though not so many willing to be involved with someone like that, and he's of course wildly unpredictable and we have a real strong connection, so I guess you never know. He said he'd like to meet every time I come down, etc. but I somehow doubt it will come to anything and am just happy to have him in my heart for now and if I can be of support to him in any way, as I love him and don't like him to suffer.

So I'm not really that worried for myself, what I disagree with and upsets me is your impression of him. I don't perceive him as a suave, smooth talker, on the contrary, the spirit he delivers his lines with is very sincere (I can also be quite a smooth talker myself so I know how it goes). And when I saw him he was almost blacked out on Klonopins and almost bumped into and forgot everything, and me and the other girl had to look out for him all the time, as he was hardly conscious and just spilling the beans, basically. Like how much he loved cats and how his cat had been shot, and deeply personal stuff that guys normally don't like to reveal, especially to complete strangers.

No attempts at manipulation and I honestly doubt he's capable of that kind of self control most of the time, apart from when doing important deals and scams, etc. which I'm sure he gets involved with out of necessity. Worries me how much danger his in on a daily basis and virtually anything can happen to him at any time. I haven't heard from him since Wednesday and don't even know if he's alive.

But as for trying to fuck me over personally, no way. He comes across as a very sweet soul with a lot of love and compassion for people and it just made me happy to be around him. That's why I was so touched by him, I never meet anyone like that, and it's depressing people are so cynical they can't even believe in something like that. As for the occult stuff, I don't know what to say, but he said he turned to God and found peace and is a deep believer now, which has been done countless times throughout history, and in fact is what Christianity is all about. I also suspect there's a specific reason he was targeted by dark forces at such a young age, but won't go into that now, as there's been enough crazyness for a while, I feel.
 
By the way, mainland Europeans aren't generally very good "smooth talkers". This is something that has been more developed in the english-speaking countries and we have no real culture for it here. You would probably find us very clueless and unsophisticated when trying to manipulate someone in comparison.

The exceptions are the seasoned drug users, but only when they are working within the drug scene, apart from that they are poor at personal manipulation with few exceptions. Of course, to an American, everyone who talks well for himself is a conman or smooth talker, but that is just not the reality in the rest of the world. We just don't study it or pay attention to it and mostly just say the first thing we can come up with.
 
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I don't think Hitler spoke much English.

Ninea you talk about sensing energies and reading peoples souls (or what ever the crap you are trying to sell). I'm going to be honest with what I sense from 500 posts on a drug forum.... You are a flake. You run from one man or another and judge your worth by the men you are around. You are making judgement calls on the strength of any relationship base on a handful of hours you are with them while strung out on drugs or while searching for drugs. Perhaps you have daddy issues, perhaps you are just lonely and haven't found your place in the world, what ever you are if I was some random guy who just met you out the front of a homeless shelter, I would run a mile. Well perhaps after I just sold you some drugs to pay for my next fix.
 
Well, that was wildly offensive. I won't even comment on that. By the way, Hitler was no common person but a trained orator, and maybe the greatest who ever lived.
 
Anyway, I actually had a conversation with my angel channeler last night (Cynthia Silk). She is very spot-on and this time I also wanted to ask some questions about him.

Though she specifically warned me against him, also, but it still didn't put me off him. So now I've already said as much I guess I can might as well satisfy your curiosity (if only for entertainment).


Me: By the way, can I ask about a guy I met in the city who was very good to me?
Cynthia: Yes, please do ask about this man
Me: Hardly ever met such a compassionate person, especially in that place, and
I just sensed a real angel energy about him. I’m getting quite good at sensing it now and would like to known if I’m right.
Cynthia: How did you meet him?
Me: Buying sleeping pills
I can show you a picture
Cynthia: Ok please do
Me: ………….
Cynthia: Did you meet him on the street?
Through a girl I met on the street
He's in a very bad state, living in a hospice, addicted to drugs, with no money, etc.
Never met anyone like that in real life
Cynthia: He is in a very bad place emotionally and is desperate for help
Me: :( Yes
Cynthia: I felt nausea when I looked at his picture
It is very sad
Me: Yes, I’d like to help him if I can, if only with money and drugs, etc. Not much else I can do. But he’s been helpful to me too.
Cynthia: He cannot help you Nina, he does not know how
Me: Anyway, is he also an angel then?
Just felt very angelic in his energy to me and I’d be surprised if I was wrong.
Cynthia: He was an angel a long time ago
Me: Really?
Cynthia: Yes
Me: So I was right
What happened?
Cynthia: Actually he was an angel in many lives
Me: But aren’t you always an angel if you are created as one?
Cynthia: To be an angel is a calling for most humans
Me: How can you stop being one?
I thought it was something permanent
Cynthia: Some people are created as angels but that does not mean they remain angels if they do not feel comfortable with the responsibilities that come with the role of an angel
Me: Ok kind of sounds like my present situation
Don’t really feel upto all the limitations and responsibilities that goes with it.
Me: I think life is so hard on us it ruins us as angels
Cynthia: Many angels living lives across the Universe suffer with depression
but angels are not sent anywhere to suffer
They are sent to live happy and productive lives
Me: Well, I do feel sorry for him, so do you have any advice for him?
He seems very into religion and love now so maybe he would like to turn back to that again
Cynthia: Your friend has too many people filling his head with negative thoughts
Me: Well he's a part of the daily drug scene in the city
Full of monsters and bad people
Very bad environment
Cynthia: He needs a true friend, one with a pure heart and much compassion - most of all someone he can trust.
This is lacking in his life
Me: His past fiance didn’t seem too good for him either
Cynthia: No she was not - she enabled his behavior and didn’t try to help him
Me: I think he finds it hard to be happy without love and just clings to anyone who will accept him as he is.
Cynthia: His angels' advice is to get out of this life in hell and seek proper help and rehabilitation
Me: Ok I will tell him that
Who are his guardian angels?
Maybe he can turn to them
Cynthia: Archangel Michael, Archangel Aria, and Archangel David
Me: Wow, powerful angel, and Aria is one of mine too
I’ll tell him
Was he an archangel too?
Cynthia: He was in the past yes
Me: Really, so he's that ancient
Cynthia: Yes, as are you
Me: Ok, I understand why I can relate to him now.
Sad, because he has so much potential. Only like one percentage of humanity are angels, and even fewer archangels.
Me: But now I get why I was so touched by him
We have a lot in common and it’s rare I meet anyone as obvious
I’m not exactly living the life of an angel either
And he has a lot of love which always makes a strong impression on me
Cynthia: Yes as do you have a lot of love - but you’re not right for each other
Cynthia: He is like a child inside
He would be all wrong for you
You are like an old soul inside
Me: I don’t know, my grandmother says if she lives to be 150 I still won’t be grown up or able to take care of myself
At least when it comes to the practical things
I just have a poor understanding of reality
But you’re right, intellectually and spiritually I am advanced for most
Anyway, I’ll pass this on to him and try to give him some advice, not much more I can do.
 
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I apologize if I came across as a flippant American. American I am, and very proud of it. However, I did spend a significant number of years in Central Europe. One of my children was even born over there. Because of those years, I am well aware of the impression you guys seem to have of us. And sometimes you' re right. I always tried to be the best example of America, blending in, learning the language, making friends, etc. If I failed to convey a spirit of friendship, I' m sorry. I was just quite concerned about you as I sense you are young and don' t have enough years of life experience to see trouble coming.
 
Ninae said:
Anyway, I actually had a conversation with my angel channeler last night (Cynthia Silk). She is very spot-on and this time I also wanted to ask some questions about him.

Though she specifically warned me against him, also, but it still didn't put me off him. So now I've already said as much I guess I can might as well satisfy your curiosity (if only for entertainment).


Me: By the way, can I ask about a guy I met in the city who was very good to me?
Cynthia: Yes, please do ask about this man
Me: Hardly ever met such a compassionate person, especially in that place, and
I just sensed a real angel energy about him. I’m getting quite good at sensing it now and would like to known if I’m right.
Cynthia: How did you meet him?
Me: Buying sleeping pills
I can show you a picture
Cynthia: Ok please do
Me: ………….
Cynthia: Did you meet him on the street?
Through a girl I met on the street
He's in a very bad state, living in a hospice, addicted to drugs, with no money, etc.
Never met anyone like that in real life
Cynthia: He is in a very bad place emotionally and is desperate for help
Me: :( Yes
Cynthia: I felt nausea when I looked at his picture
It is very sad
Me: Yes, I’d like to help him if I can, if only with money and drugs, etc. Not much else I can do. But he’s been helpful to me too.
Cynthia: He cannot help you Nina, he does not know how
Me: Anyway, is he also an angel then?
Just felt very angelic in his energy to me and I’d be surprised if I was wrong.
Cynthia: He was an angel a long time ago
Me: Really?
Cynthia: Yes
Me: So I was right
What happened?
Cynthia: Actually he was an angel in many lives
Me: But aren’t you always an angel if you are created as one?
Cynthia: To be an angel is a calling for most humans
Me: How can you stop being one?
I thought it was something permanent
Cynthia: Some people are created as angels but that does not mean they remain angels if they do not feel comfortable with the responsibilities that come with the role of an angel
Me: Ok kind of sounds like my present situation
Don’t really feel upto all the limitations and responsibilities that goes with it.
Me: I think life is so hard on us it ruins us as angels
Cynthia: Many angels living lives across the Universe suffer with depression
but angels are not sent anywhere to suffer
They are sent to live happy and productive lives
Me: Well, I do feel sorry for him, so do you have any advice for him?
He seems very into religion and love now so maybe he would like to turn back to that again
Cynthia: Your friend has too many people filling his head with negative thoughts
Me: Well he's a part of the daily drug scene in the city
Full of monsters and bad people
Very bad environment
Cynthia: He needs a true friend, one with a pure heart and much compassion - most of all someone he can trust.
This is lacking in his life
Me: His past fiance didn’t seem too good for him either
Cynthia: No she was not - she enabled his behavior and didn’t try to help him
Me: I think he finds it hard to be happy without love and just clings to anyone who will accept him as he is.
Cynthia: His angels' advice is to get out of this life in hell and seek proper help and rehabilitation
Me: Ok I will tell him that
Who are his guardian angels?
Maybe he can turn to them
Cynthia: Archangel Michael, Archangel Aria, and Archangel David
Me: Wow, powerful angel, and Aria is one of mine too
I’ll tell him
Was he an archangel too?
Cynthia: He was in the past yes
Me: Really, so he's that ancient
Cynthia: Yes, as are you
Me: Ok, I understand why I can relate to him now.
Sad, because he has so much potential. Only like one percentage of humanity are angels, and even fewer archangels.
Me: But now I get why I was so touched by him
We have a lot in common and it’s rare I meet anyone as obvious
I’m not exactly living the life of an angel either
And he has a lot of love which always makes a strong impression on me
Cynthia: Yes as do you have a lot of love - but you’re not right for each other
Cynthia: He is like a child inside
He would be all wrong for you
You are like an old soul inside
Me: I don’t know, my grandmother says if she lives to be 150 I still won’t be grown up or able to take care of myself
At least when it comes to the practical things
I just have a poor understanding of reality
But you’re right, intellectually and spiritually I am advanced for most
Anyway, I’ll pass this on to him and try to give him some advice, not much more I can do.
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dafuq did i just read?
 
Hmmm. Ninae I don't mean to be offensive, people believe what they want but do you not think there's a possibility that that conversation is somewhat far-fetched and really not at all representative of the situation in any way...?
 
^THat's really rude. She doesn't come across as crazy, she comes across as spiritual, but also due to her age and unresolved issues pretty emotionally needy. If she finds it offensive, then it's true - she took how Busty said it pretty badly, but then again he's a little harsher and blunter in his delivery than even me.

It needs to be said though, and it needs to be said clearly - work on yourself lass, fix yourself, and the right men will be drawn to you.

You're also probably hypersensitive (do you have "BUSY" palms? - full of lines?)
 
Seriously there are no such thing as angels angel channellers energy auras or the ability to sense someone nor is the occult magic or palm reading palm lines or in fact anything of what nin has described. This suggests to me nin is in la la land delusional and probably worse perhaps a mental illness.

Oh and people who hear voices are schizophrenic.
 
Ninae said:
I'm just interested in being in a relationship for as long as the love lasts for and wouldn't call that shallow. Most people lose those feelings in a few years, it's not built to last, and I have no interest in being in a loveless marriage for 20 years for the sake of children or finances, which so many are suffering from, no thanks.

Don't have a thing for dealers, who in their right mind would, just happen to have met some extremely attractive ones who I responded too. Besides, most addicts are dealers anyway, it's the only way they can finance their habit apart from prostitution or other crimes. These aren't the big serious dealers, just doing what they need to get by.
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what i meant was that the honeymoon phase never lasts long term and that once its gone thats when you see the real person. if its always about the early stages then thats not good because the rush will always calm down eventually anyway.

also no-one who is selling drugs is going to be able to make a long term reliable commitment as they could get caught and be gone for some time

mystical beliefs are fine (not my bag but each to their own) but you cannot rely on them for sound judgement
 
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