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Heroin So i bought some heroin

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SoonAJunkie

SoonAJunkie

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Ok hello everyone my name is Alex :)
I recently bought some heroin(200mg),it's no3 and potent as the dealer told me.I'm gonna snort it since he said that no3 Shouldn't be IV'ed.Plus that i am a first timer so...Anyways,i bought that heroin.I'm keeping it though until winter,that it will be really cold and i will enjoy the warmth more in front of my fireplace! :)
Just wanted to ask,how many "highs" is 200mg of heroin?I'll possibly go and buy 500mg more these days,and will buy no4 which is IVable and iving it is more intene and requires less.I'm studying a lot this year so i would really appreciate sometimes getting relaxed like hell...Please don't bitch about the addiction,i know about that ill try not to get addicted haha.So how many doses is 200mg?How long does the high last?
 
Too many factors to tell for sure. A potent product according to a dealer means nothing(they rarely tell you their stuff is bunk). We do not know your tolerance, have you ever used heroin before? ...other opioids? ...how often and at what doses? And physical characteristics play a part, too.

All in all, you want to start low, maybe <=5 mg worth of it and work your way up until you find what you need, that is all that can be told to you. Then you will have an idea.

To give you an idea, if you have no tolerance you will most likely at least feel 10 mg of it, and 20-30 should get you feeling pretty good. After that it is a matter of how high you want to get, some people want to get zonked and others just relaxed. Also this is likely to be tar, which isn't really snort-able unless it is altered to be or "water-lined". Most people smoke tar if they don't IV.
 
RTrain said:
Too many factors to tell for sure. A potent product according to a dealer means nothing(they rarely tell you their stuff is bunk). We do not know your tolerance, have you ever used heroin before? ...other opioids? ...how often and at what doses? And physical characteristics play a part, too.

All in all, you want to start low, maybe <=5 mg worth of it and work your way up until you find what you need, that is all that can be told to you. Then you will have an idea.

To give you an idea, if you have no tolerance you will most likely at least feel 10 mg of it, and 20-30 should get you feeling pretty good. After that it is a matter of how high you want to get, some people want to get zonked and others just relaxed. Also this is likely to be tar, which isn't really snort-able unless it is altered to be or "water-lined". Most people smoke tar if they don't IV.
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im 180cm and 63 kg
never used heroin or any other drugs except for dmt lsd and weed and xanax
 
So yeah, like I wrote, start low, like a very small amount. And give the drug time to take effect, wait 30 minutes before trying a little more. Unlike those other 4 drugs you have tried, the line is much finer between feeling good and overdosing with heroin. Especially when you have no prior use of it or similar drugs.
 
Yeah, as RTrain said above, be careful. You have no tolerance and no experience with opiates so are even more likely to overdo it.
A good rule with potent opiates is to measure out the dose you thimk you will need to get high...then HALF it. Remember you can always take more later but you cant UNtake a substance.
Its extremely likely that you will find heroin too intense with your lack of experience, so be prepared for alot of vomiting and nausea.
If you dont mind me asking, why have you jumped straight to heroin? im guessing your in america and the US have a proliferation of moderate strength opiate/oids that you could gain experience with.
 
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First off, how do you know that you got #3 heroin and are getting #4 next? Most places have one or the other, and heroin base is actually #2 if that's what you got. There is absolutely no need to IV it when you have never used opiates before. It's way too dangerous, and you will likely get sick from it, ruining the whole experience. Most people sniff or smoke heroin for years before switching to IV, and even then it's dangerous and a lot of them either die or get sick the first time doing so.

If you sniff or smoke it then start with between 5-10mg, and gauge where to go from there, and if its decent stuff you should need no more than 30mg to get you where you want to be, but do 5-10mg at a time (waiting at least 25 minutes to redose) since you may need less than 30mg to get you there.

Once you establish where your tolerance is from sniffing or smoking a particular batch and are dead set on IVing it, then do 1/4 of that dose to start off. Don't go by how much of the first batch you needed to get high to figure out how much of the #4 you will use since heroin always varies in potency, and since you have zero tolerance you need to be extra careful. Keep in mind that not only does IV heroin have around twice the bioavailability than other ROAs, but you are also getting it all at once which is why you should use way less than 1/2 the dose you were sniffing when you switch to IV, and instead use 1/4 of the dose as I previously mentioned (most people IV 1/3 of the amount they were doing via other ROAs, but they also have higher tolerance and more experience which is why I recommend you start off with even less).

Is there anyway that you can have someone with you when you do it so they can call for help if you overdose? What you are doing is very dangerous so you should take the necessary precautions to ensure that you will survive the high.
 
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First off, how do you know that you got #3 heroin and are getting #4 next? Most places have one or the other, and heroin base is actually #2 if that's what you got. There is absolutely no need to IV it when you have never used opiates before. It's way too dangerous, and you will likely get sick from it, ruining the whole experience. Most people sniff or smoke heroin for years before switching to IV, and even then it's dangerous and a lot of them either die or get sick the first time doing so.

If you sniff or smoke it then start with between 5-10mg, and gauge where to go from there, and if its decent stuff you should need no more than 30mg to get you where you want to be, but do 5-10mg at a time (waiting at least 25 minutes to redose) since you may need less than 30mg to get you there.

Once you establish where your tolerance is from sniffing or smoking a particular batch and are dead set on IVing it, then do 1/4 of that dose to start off. Don't go by how much of the first batch you needed to get high to figure out how much of the #4 you will use since heroin always varies in potency, and since you have zero tolerance you need to be extra careful. Keep in mind that not only does IV heroin have around twice the bioavailability than other ROAs, but you are also getting it all at once which is why you should use way less than 1/2 the dose you were sniffing when you switch to IV, and instead use 1/4 of the dose as I previously mentioned (most people IV 1/3 of the amount they were doing via other ROAs, but they also have higher tolerance and more experience which is why I recommend you start off with even less).

Is there anyway that you can have someone with you when you do it so they can call for help if you overdose? What you are doing is very dangerous so you should take the necessary precautions to ensure that you will survive the high.
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nope,i m not gonna tell anyone about my drug use!
 
IfWinterEnds said:
First off, how do you know that you got #3 heroin and are getting #4 next? Most places have one or the other, and heroin base is actually #2 if that's what you got. There is absolutely no need to IV it when you have never used opiates before. It's way too dangerous, and you will likely get sick from it, ruining the whole experience. Most people sniff or smoke heroin for years before switching to IV, and even then it's dangerous and a lot of them either die or get sick the first time doing so.

If you sniff or smoke it then start with between 5-10mg, and gauge where to go from there, and if its decent stuff you should need no more than 30mg to get you where you want to be, but do 5-10mg at a time (waiting at least 25 minutes to redose) since you may need less than 30mg to get you there.

Once you establish where your tolerance is from sniffing or smoking a particular batch and are dead set on IVing it, then do 1/4 of that dose to start off. Don't go by how much of the first batch you needed to get high to figure out how much of the #4 you will use since heroin always varies in potency, and since you have zero tolerance you need to be extra careful. Keep in mind that not only does IV heroin have around twice the bioavailability than other ROAs, but you are also getting it all at once which is why you should use way less than 1/2 the dose you were sniffing when you switch to IV, and instead use 1/4 of the dose as I previously mentioned (most people IV 1/3 of the amount they were doing via other ROAs, but they also have higher tolerance and more experience which is why I recommend you start off with even less).

Is there anyway that you can have someone with you when you do it so they can call for help if you overdose? What you are doing is very dangerous so you should take the necessary precautions to ensure that you will survive the high.
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I'm thinking maybe he order it online black market.

OP, you will definitely want to have someome around when you do it. Be very very careful. Most people do not plan to become addicted but just to try it every once in awhile. I guess some people have to learn for themselves. I'm glad you are going to "wait til winter" to try it, maybe you will change your mind by then, if you can really let it sit til then. (Though I have no idea how far winter is in Greece). Do you mind me asking how old you are? If I might suggest, during the time between now and when yoou are going to use it, do a lot of research and take advantage of the experiences and lessons learned along with safety techniques that you can find here on BL.
Make sure you heed all of the advice and negative implications that come from those experiences here too. It might save your life (literally) and a lot of needless suffering down the road. And don't just take advice from your dealer to heart unless it is a close friend that you totally trust which I doubt (because they would probably discourage you at this point in time from your plan). Drug dealers are there to make money and all of them cannot be trusted with your life.

Take care and be safe and smart. Again take advantage of all the information and experiences that are available here.
 
Bunge,

Figured he wasn't in the UK because he didn't say he weighed 10 stone. No self respecting 'merican uses that commie metric system that the pinko Jimmy Carter tried to force on us. (Please not my tongue, Firmly planted in cheek). I thought base heroin was #3 and hcl was #4? I'm likely wrong, but that was always what I thought.
 
The whole numbering system of types of heroin is really outdated and pretty meaningless to the heroin available nowadays, that system was developed by the US government in the 70s.

OP, I would highly recommend not using heroin. I don't want to sound preachy, but nobody thinks they will become a junkie when they first use. Addiction can sneak up on you, and it's no joke.

I am a heroin addict and it has completely ruined many aspects of my life. I have overdosed several times, and I am lucky to be alive. I am broke, which caused me to manipulate my family into giving me money, and have ruined or damaged relationships with family, friends, and my girlfriend. I have watched people overdose on nine occasions, and have had one friend die from overdose. I have seen someone change from an incredibly generous person who I would trust with anything, any amount of money, to someone who stole drugs and money from a close friend who was letting them stay at his house when the thief had nowhere else to go.

If you are dead set on using heroin, I would advise you to start with no more than 5mg snorted just to test it out.

I also really recommend having someone with you to get help if you overdose. Heroin is sometimes cut with fentanyl, which is a synthetic opioid active in microgram doses. This means that even a dose of heroin that wouldn't make you overdose even if the dope was 100% pure pharmaceutical grade could cause an OD. This is unlikely, but it is possible, and it happened to me.

I almost died, in fact may have been dead for a minute or two, from fentanyl laced heroin. If my girlfriend had not had narcan on hand to inject me with the second i fell out from the shot I would not be here writing this (so start small and have someone with you to get help if something goes wrong).

If 5mg doesn't do much (it likely won't) increase your dose by 5-10mg at a time until you find a dose that gets you where you want to be.

Keep in mind that snorted heroin takes 5 to 10 minutes to take full effect.

I would say that your 200mg will likely be 2 or 3 doses, maybe up to 5 if you're really lucky with the purity. You never know though, maybe you got really lucky and your stuff is 95% pure, so start small. You can always take more, but you can't un-take what you've already done.

Good luck, and stay safe. I hope you choose to stay away from dope, I understand it's appeal, but it really isn't worth it in the long run, and I say this as someone who has used opiates for almost 8 years. If you do use it, take every precaution to avoid addiction, never underestimate the power of this drug.
 
Definitely start with a TINY BUMP.. NO MORE than 10mg.. I am sure it's hella cut and not GOOD.. but still, you CANNOT risk your life what so ever. When you decide to do it.. get two teenie weenie bumps in a straw and dump them out into two small piles. Insufflate one, get the drain, swallow it, and sit back for 30min-hour.. if you're not where "you want to be".. then go take that other pile. :) No more. Enjoy your warmth.

Remember.. no more than 10mg.. so 5mg per bump(pile). Seriously.. if you were to break a pill and drop it on your desk.. and the little flakes of pill that fell off... that's what you want to start with.
 
Just throw 100mg on a foil and smoke untill you are high, that's how I will do later when I want to do heroin again. Just don't smoke it all in one hit lol.
 
I wouldn't smoke it.. unless it was BTH, honestly. I would just insufflate. :) Different strokes for different folks though. :)
 
twotoomany said:
Bunge,

Figured he wasn't in the UK because he didn't say he weighed 10 stone. No self respecting 'merican uses that commie metric system that the pinko Jimmy Carter tried to force on us. (Please not my tongue, Firmly planted in cheek). I thought base heroin was #3 and hcl was #4? I'm likely wrong, but that was always what I thought.
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Ah, i thought base was no.2 like an above poster but i can concede that i could be wrong.lol Weight is sometimes done in Kg over here (UK) though admittedly its commonly in stones (us brits love the imperial system).
The rest of your post had me pissing myself...i never thought of the metric system as commie before and im not sure what a pinko is but i think i read it once in a james bond novel, so im guessing its the same as being commie.
Either way it brightened my morning!lmao
 
^ I believe H#2&1 aren't even H at all, its morphine base(H#2) and pure opium(#1). H #3 is heroin base and #4 is pure heroin HCl. The #'s are just the 4 states the product goes through to produce Heroin HCl, not actual forms H.
 
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