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so 500mg too much?

Iggy:@

Iggy:@

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I've read that 500mg is way to much to take.
Its my second time i've tried mdma, and i had 500mg of crystal mdma which was crushed soon later, it was taken in about 3.5 hours.

My first time was similar amount but i spaced out the rolls wayy too long. Second time i did mdma was way more better than the first one.

Just wondering what amounts people take to reach the best experience.

oh and by the way the comedown was the worst.. i know you can take 5-HTP but i didnt have any, so i just ended up smoking a Joint that helped out my comedown a bit ;DD
 
I dont understand what youre asking,

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Yeah 500mg was way too much. If its good molly, 150mg taken at first and maybe 100-150 re-dosed when the effects you are after start to wear off for a solid hour straight. so you dont stay up until like 6am rollin faces.

There may be a better technique i havent tried this way yet.
 
Depends how pure it is really.

200mg of pure mdma gets my eyes rolling for a good 2 hours
I am mega fucked on it.
 
Shuglin himself said no one needs more than 160. But Ive probably taken 6-700 mgs of MDA... ATLEAST 500mgs of MDMA... I always say go big or go home.

If your going to do this PLEASE put ATLEAST 2-3 months in between your rolls. Sometimes you gotta push yourself, but do it a lot like I was and you get fucked over. Pretty damn fast.
 
darksidedsam said:
Depends how pure it is really.

200mg of pure mdma gets my eyes rolling for a good 2 hours
I am mega fucked on it.
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.2 or 200mg whatever you want to call it is plenty. but if you have enough money to take 500 at a time i would split that into two different days.
 
i generally use between 300-350mg of pure crystal mdma the few times a year i actually use. i don't do it that often, so i generally go balls to the wall when i actually do. the couple of times i have done more than that, my comedown was REALLY bad. I've learned my lesson and my limits since then.
 
if it was 500mg pure MDMA then yes you took quite a large dose. even if it was cut a little thats a lot. in line with our HR attitude i suggest you keep your doses lower. only redose once, about an hour after your first dose, and lower. you dont want to develop a tolerance to MDMA, so only roll once a month at the most.
 
500mgs of decent MDMA would have a lot of people stuck to the floor and for new users I would imagine the experiece to be too much.

It makes me suspect that what your taking is either cut to pieces, not MDMA or you have forgot to tell us that you were stuck to the floor in a gibbering mess - eyes playing ping pong in your head, jaw swinging from side to side and sweating your ass off.

Depending on your size / build then you really shouldn't need more than 150mgs as a starting dose (obviously if you have a tolerance the amount is going to increase).


PLEASE do not turn this into a dick sizing thread - we don't want to hear how much you have taken in one night before.
 
If i had more accurate scales, i would like to know just how many Mg a "dab" is
(I can only weigh at .1gram at a time)
I only know i took 200mg as i weighed it before i left then just poured the contents into my palm of my hand... Liiiiiiiiiiickkkkkk *Funny Face*

lol
 
500mg at one time would be too much. I've taken 2-3 pills to start a night, then 1-2 more throughout the night, which would be right around 500mg in total.

The side effects from high doses like that are just too nasty, too long of a recovery period. It would have to be a very special night to drop that much, where sacrificing the next few weeks of my life would be worth it for the current six hour experience.

On the other hand, you can take 100-250mg approx and oftentimes feel perfect the next day, if you have quality clean pills.

At this stage of my life I oftentimes can't afford lengthy recoveries. When I was 19, 500mg bring it on :-)
 
500 mg of crystal is really quite a lot and would leave me totally floored. A dose of 120 mg is enough for a nice high and you can ramp it up to 180 mg and still be rolling pleasantly. Go over and up to about 250 mg to be totally zonked. But it really depends on the stuff you're getting. Sounds to me like your stuff is cut with something else if you were able to take 500 mg and not realize you took too much.
 
Taking that much crystal in a night doesn't seem to be too uncommon (at least round where I am) people just don't seem to be as educated or are just irresponsible. Plenty of people drop every weekend an take anything from 200mg to a gram. I know someone who's taken 2.5g's in a night :/

I'm not encouraging this at all, its ridiculous an these people will regret it.
 
2.5g? Man I wonder what that would feel like. Even when I would get up to 500mg, it would be intense, powerful, and part psychedelic.
 
2.5G's that is what, like 10-20% MDMA, 80-90% inactive cut? I don't see how people do it. I've never done more than like 125-150 mg in one night, though I've only rolled 8 times in the last couple years and never abused, I just have always worried about side effects and never taken a lot. I still have a good time but even 500mg seems so extreme, if the stuff is any good that is.
 
I did around 450mg one time, and the first time I ever rolled I ate 4 huge triplestacks at once (not knowing what they were besides ecstasy) - then I was informed that they were really strong and to try a HALF first. LOL I thought I was gonna die. Then about an hour later after eating tons of food and drinking water to try to dilute the pills in my stomach I started rolling facee. Really, I can't even remember 'peaking' - it was like all of a sudden everything just got insanely amazingly heavenly fun and wonderful. I was just like, in the room, talking to people one minute, then outside in a car smoking the next, it was just a flash of images. It was the best time I ever had in my life. Only toward the end of the night did I have a real sense of what was going on. I'm assuming those 4 pills could have been around 400+mg at least, with some kind of speed cut, but not much. I didn't have a hangover at all, I was up the whole next day, and went out and partied the next night. I had an awesome afterglow and a sense of 'holy shit did that just happen?'

lol... I'm kind of recounting this story because that's how I want tonight to go!! :D

When I took the 400+mg of MOLLY last november on a saturday it was great, but by the end of the night, cuz I had redosed 3 times I was fucked up. Like, quite literally 'drunk' on it. I couldn't drive straight, I was dropping shit, I was just hitting the couch. And I could definitely tell when it started to subside... the next day wasn't so bad, but I definitely noticed my brain wasn't functioning nearly as well as it was before.

The after-effects of my 18th birthday party I described above when I ate the 4 triple stacks all at once was that for several weeks... I had gotten a journal as a birthday present, and I was writing entries everyday, and SEVERAL times, I'd be writing the entry, look back a page for reference and realize that i was writing the EXACT SAME ENTRY as I did the day before, and that I had NO MEMORY of what had happened that day. I couldn't recall it, at all. It really kind of scared me. Eventually it went away, but still, that was a drastic side effect I think for my first time rolling, and that is another reason why I suspect I had taken somewhere around 500mg.
 
I read once it would take around 40 pills to kill you, maybe 4g. I don't know if it's true or not but I bet it's something right around there. I would think 2.5g would be too much of a load for the body to handle, and anything positive would be clouded out. But even at 500mg, it's enjoying but kinda like being on shrooms in a way. I remember me and my buddy would talk non stop on 500mg, but any time we tried to stop and just rephrase or remember what we had JUST talked about, we could never recall the dialogue.
 
I'd personally find 500mg way too high (that will drain my serotonin too much) - I prefer 150-200mg, though even that feels a bit high (especially with a Piracetam pre-load). I tend to only do 2 pills a night. I've also found comedown severity increases steeply with high doses - I don't really get much in the way of a comedown (though is dependent on other factors) if I take between 200-300mg, but can get quite severe comedowns if doses approach 400-500mg.

There was a time (over 10 years ago now) where I'd take up to 9 good pills a night (perhaps between 0.6 and 1.0 g of MDMA equivalent), several times a week. Believe me, it wasn't good (yeah messed me up a fair bit), but I don't believe there's been any lasting damage from that abuse phase.

I've found in my experience MDMA is generally fine, until you start taking loads of it, or taking it multiple times a week, and in most cases I'd rather take an average comedown over a moderate alcohol hangover any time. Your mileage may vary of course. Apologies for the tangent...

EDIT: Just seen Bearloves comment above... apologies, but didn't feel as though my dosing comment above could be considering dicksizing, as I've admitted its somewhat unpleasant at those doses.
 
To add to the comments above regarding LD50's, I believe MDMA has an LD50 of between 49 and 98mg/kg from animal studies (interperitoneal administration), which would equate to an LD50 of between 3.7 and 7.4 grams for a 75kg human (Source = http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_chemistry.shtml)

I also seem to recall reading somewhere (can't remember where though) that the estimated LD50 of MDMA for humans is between 2.5 and 3.0 grams orally (as humans have different sensitivities to many lab animals), which gives it a comparable LD50 to Caffeine I believe. That said I imagine dosing 1 gram at once would do a hell of a number on an average human, and would make you rather ill.

(sorry for the double post).
 
There is no way anyone can really tell you exactly how much to take as there is so many different variables involved. How big is the person? What is their tolerance? How pure is the MDMA? How much did the dealer really even give them?

Basically the best way to find out is to start with a small-medium sized dose (100-150). If that is not enough, then try more the next time. If that is too much, then take a little bit less the next time. You need to test your stuff every time to make sure it even is MDMA, as well as get a sense of the strength.
 
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