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So 4-FA....

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Well think im gonna finally try it tonight, mods feel free to move this to rcs/4-fa thread if we have one in EADD, so 150mg prob whack into some OJ and down it, works best for me, with most stuff.


So what's it like compared to mdma/6-apb, even heard sounds a bit 4mmc ish?
 
To me it was a more euphoric version of amphetamine.
You are energetic and focussed, but also have a great euphoric feeling.
Not as euphoric as MDMA, but you'll feel for yourself, I guess.
The focus part is extreme by the way, you can think really clearly!
 
For me it was like a cross between weak-ish speed and MDMA or something... downfall is its not very re-doseable & becomes unreliable pretty quickly. Good stuff though, minimal comedown. 150mg is a perfect starter dose, re-doses of 100mg
 
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We will see 150mg, doubt ill re dose, alot of sleep to catch up on ;), 10g here and the price i paid, if turns out to be any good well that's cheap as chips

ColtDan is the poster boy for 4-FA the baggie had a picture of him on it, none of that IPAC bollocks... =D
 
imo, 4fa doenst play nice with redoses... especially if you want any sleep... depending on general tolerance 150 might be right but also a bit much for the stim naive
 
Bob Funkhouse said:
Really like the sounds of this chem. I should have purchased before illegality kicked in ffs
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I could be wrong, but I believe 4-fa has been illegal for a very long time I'm afraid Bob. You haven't missed the boat or anything. It was banned in Netherlands only a few years ago, which I think gives rise to the impression that it has only recently been banned in the UK too. Although the law around 4-fa is ambiguous, & I have in fact found UK based 4-fa suppliers through Google before now, although his material turned out to be impure, he was advertising it quite openly.

Discovered the stuff after meph got banned. Pretty easy to import small amounts in the usual way. Redosing works okay for me, but brings lingering stimulation well beyond the end of the actual enjoyable effects. I haven't taken it often recently but on the odd ocassion I have done it's worked out okay using about 120mg.

I find the effects similar to a slightly more pleasant speed. Like mixing phet with a low dose of MDMA, only it lasts a good few hours longer. Comedowns pretty easy on the system, provided your system is in good nick.

There was much talk of neurotoxicity a few years ago, on Drugs Forum, & I came to the conclusion that using 4-fa in high doses or with too much regularity might bring the same kind of long-term brain changes reported in high MDMA users. So keep it monthly & try to stay below 300mg of material in any one session.

Oh & in the name of all that's Holy, please don't be tempted to snort this shit. It's caustic, physically wounds the nostrils & resulted in an extended period of ulcers & open wounds after only one or two goes at it. Do not snort 4-fa if you like being pain free...
 
The jury is out on the harm caused by 4-fa, if any, just as it was 20 years ago with MDMA. But seeing as it turns out the high, regular dosing of MDMA does cause brain changes, it's wise to assume the same about 4-fa unless or until it's proven wrong.

I thought 4-fa may have been banned following the Operation Julie bust & if the ban dates from 1977, then I'm probably correct.
 
I think it just feels nasty and stops being any fun. Wouldn't like to speculate about any long-term ill effect.

I'm pretty sure 4-FA was banned because of DOM rather than Operation Julie. Could be wrong, but the growing popularity of DOM was the main spur for the 1977 amendment to the original Act.
 
this conversation is going a bit off topic... not sure its that ok to say that, LearntYoung... could be wrong and paranoid though.


personally 4fa is my go to party drug, as it gives energy and a bit of euphoria with some empathy thrown in. and things dont go as personal and cuddly as they do with mdma, making it more appropriate for fun nights out when i dont want to spill my feelings to complete strangers waiting in line for the toilets.

i do use it quite a lot though. or little depending on your measuring stick. like once per month... nad rarely redose, ever. if that i go for 100mg before the high runs out (so at around 2-3 hours after dropping it)
 
dont worry man, 150 isnt that much. just put on some music and enjoy.

and dont break out the porn too soon or you ll be a bit busy for a few hours with stiky fingers for the rest of the night ;)
 
LearntYoung said:
Wait... I ordered an illegal drug on a normal website and got it in my mailbox 2 weeks later?
I really didn't know it was banned already...
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I'm sure it is, I was chatting to a mate in the Netherlands who claimed to have enjoyed 4-fa many times before it got banned there, only a few years ago, if I remember correctly. Can't find anything in English online to support thie assertion though.
 
I can't find a source to say it's illegal in the Netherlands either. Though quite a few forum posts from English speakers in the Netherlands appear to indicate that it's still actually legal.
 
Wow! Perhaps I have grasped the wrong end of the stick. It is most definitely, certainly legal in Spain. There was some Daily Mail freak-out recently about MDPV flooding Ibiza this year, & consequently causing alot of problems. If 4-fa were circulated all over Ibiza instead of MDPV it would make for one of those rare, legendary years I reckon.
 
kingme said:
this conversation is going a bit off topic... not sure its that ok to say that, LearntYoung... could be wrong and paranoid though
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Meh, drug USE is legal here and I don't have anything left anymore.

On topic:
I think 150mg is a great dose, maybe a small redose, but don't take it again in the near future.
Keep at least a month in between, preferably longer. :)
 
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