snorting tar not as good as smoking

[Rewster451]

I've been using heroin regularly for the last six months or so. Up until six months ago I had never done heroin, butI had plenty of experience with opiates, mostly oxycodone. The only heroin I can get around here is tar. It ranges in quality from crumbly soft, pitch black goo balls that kinda smell like Coca-Cola and vinegar, to slightly higher quality rock hard chunks of slightly translucent amber.I started out smoking it because I didn't know how else to use it, and I really don't want to start shooting yet. But since then I've tried snorting it, hoping that it would save me some money. The thing is, I can't seem to get high that way. If I'm sick it'll make me well, but it won't get me high. My pupils don't pin out, and I can piss, shit, or bust a nut just like somebody who has never done opiates. I always prepare my gear to snort by dissolving in water, usually about .5ml for .5g of gear. I could snort the whole half gram and not feel the least bit high, while smoking the same amount can even get me nodding if the junk isn't complete garbage. Is it possible that people get off in different ways? Like different strokes for different folks? The guy who introduced me to my dealer says he always snorts and considers smoking a waste.

 

[_DankOpiAmp_]

Maybe it is freebase and the guy used citrate to make it snortable? I thought it was widely known that smoking is best for tar. If the smoke doesn't go into the air and you hold it in it isn't a waste at all.

 

[Rewster451]

It doesn't need citrate for sure. I actually started using a tiny dab of baking soda to get rid of the burn from the excess acetate that makes it smell like vinegar. And like I said, it doesn't not work, it just doesn't get me high. I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like that? It's consistent from batch to batch. No matter how shitty or how bomb the smack is, smoking gets me high, snorting just makes me well and that's as far as it goes.

BTW I have mastered the art of chasing on foil and I don't waste hardly at all. I only wanted to snort it because I read that it has a higher bioavailability, and I figured that would translate into more high for less money. And that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[_DankOpiAmp_]

Probably tolerance. The quick hit of smoking still gives you the pleasure but the slower onset of snorting never crosses the threshold into goodness. I hadn't realized still worked enough to make you well, that was unclear.

 

[Rewster451]

That sorta makes sense, and that's what I thought was going on as well, but since the bioavailability is higher when snorted (much higher by some reports), and the effects are longer lasting, shouldn't it build up and eventually cross the "threshold into goodness?"

Right now I'm just snorting little bits throughout the day to keep me well at work, and at night I chase enough to get high and go to bed happy. And I'm okay with that schedule, but I still have to wonder what's going on with the snorting...

Also, fwiw, if I squirt some of the dissolved dope on the foil and evaporate the water out and smoke that, it still gets me high, so I know the "monkey water" still contains active heroin.

 

[_DankOpiAmp_]

Smoking absorbs more quickly into your brain, that is the key to euphoria. The total amount in your body becomes less relevant once the honeymoon phase is over. Your brain craves that sharp rise whereas slowly building up levels in your bloodstream is too gradual to hit the spot.

Also, the smoke that actually absorbs through your lungs is more bioavailable than with snorting but the overall efficiently of smoking is considerably lower due to waste (any exhaled smoke as well as smoke that drifts away when heated is lost). You end up getting more into you in the end with snorting when using the same amount so it is ideal for maintenance.