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Snorting Heroin, No Euphoria

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Hey BLers,

If you don't want to read the more in-depth post below, my story in a nutshell is i snorted enough h to get a nod going but had no euphoria whatsoever. And yes it was definitely h.

So the longer story is two of my junkie friends and i went out to cop some h, we live in philly, and they know of a spot where the h is super nice. This is my second time buying heroin but the first time where i actually use it. so being junkies, my friends pull over somewhere and shoot up two bags. I wait till i'm back at my place before snorting 1/4 - 1/3 of a bag, until i feel a little nauseous then i stop. over the next two hours there's not much of an effect but just kinda tired and i go to sleep. Next night i set out about the rest of the bag, about 3/4, and snort it. After a half hour i start nodding as well as start feeling nauseous, more than the previous night. Having achieved the nod i thought i would have felt some change in mood but i did not feel any euphoria at all again. If anything my mood was slightly depressed. After three hours i decided i was going to go upstairs and sleep even though i knew moving that much would make me throwup. So i threw up. after that i basically nodded in bed for awhile longer, then passed into a deep sleep.
I was not sick the following day, a tad bit queasy but not much at all. This experience felt more like taking a few morphine ms contins or something

So my question has anyone experienced something like this before? Perhaps that is just how snorting h will affect me, and i should try a different ROA?
 
yeah I dont find it as euphoric as other opiates but it def. can be. i sort of thought this too the first time actually. its like h has more of a flat character almost.
 
all that nausea and vomiting could've killed the euphoria. I know I've taken doses of opioids and opiates that were too high and it was NOT euphoric at all for me despite being hardly conscious.

Anyway, this is better suited to BDD than OD so off ya go...



--->BDD
 
Sounds like you fell asleep and missed the high the first night and did a little too much the next day. Try doing a half of a bag next time(if there is a next time) The best part of doing H for me was always the rush from IV. I only snorted it 2 or 3 times when i first started doing it, and don't remember ever having a very good high when snorting it. I'm not suggesting you shoot it, because that will only get ya hooked, but maybe you can try some other ROA? Maybe plugging? I've never plugged H before but i can see it having a little better BA than snorting it (not positive though) and you would probably get a decent rush.
 
SirTophamHat said:
yeah I dont find it as euphoric as other opiates but it def. can be. i sort of thought this too the first time actually. its like h has more of a flat character almost.
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im just curious as to what opiates you think are more euphoric.



personally heroin gives me no euphoria at all anymore so i cant even rationalize doing it anymore.. 8)
 
Oxycodone AKA any Perc 30's, they have been my fav opiate for a long time. i think blueberry's are the most euphoric.... However i dont do them anymore but they always gave me the best High. Oxycotin is a smoother high that last a while where as oxycodones seem to hit you all at once (thus the IR vs. ER formula).
 
I bet its cut with/ is fentanyl. Thats why its making you tired and so noddy without the euphoria.
 
^due to the prevalent publicization of notable cases, people tend to think fentanyl is used as a cut far more frequently than it is.
 
hmm, this just occured to me, probably because im tripping, but heroin should be more associated with bliss rather than euphoria ..am i right?
 
^how do you differentiate the two? Euphoria is actually a medically-recognized side effect of many drugs and one of the most common descriptions of the opioid experience (including heroin). I don't know what YOU mean specifically by 'bliss'. Linguistically, the two words are synonymous.
 
I think of bliss as being totally calm without anxiety or any feelings that are other than positive, while euphoria can accompany anxiety or feelings that are both pleasant and unpleasant....Im not sure about dictionary definitions, but bliss to me implies a lack of negative feelings as well as positive feelings, while euphoria is positive but neutral in regard to the existence of other feelings.
 
From Merriam-Webster's medical dictionary-

Main Entry: eu·pho·ria

Pronunciation: \yu̇-ˈfōr-ē-ə, -ˈfȯr-\
Function: noun

: a feeling of well-being or elation ; especially : one that is groundless, disproportionate to its cause, or inappropriate to one's life situation
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...and from medterms.com-

Euphoria: Elevated mood.

Euphoria is a desirable and natural occurrence when it results from happy or exciting events. An excessive degree of euphoria that is not linked to events is characteristic of hypomania or mania, abnormal mood states associated with bipolar disorders.
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Neither contain 'bliss' so naturally, absent a formal, agreed-upon definition will have a far more subjective understanding.
 
I see bliss and euphoria this way:
Ignorance is bliss. Like Sentience said, I see bliss as a lack of anxiety or cares.
Euphoria to me, is an intense happy feeling. If I'm rolling, it's euphoric, but sometimes I'm so twacked out that I can't call it blissful, just the happiness is bursting through everything else.

Bliss is euphoria, but not all euphoria is bliss.
My 2 cents.
 
Opiates in general are kind of boring, other than IV Dilaudid. I never tried IV heroin, but even IV morphine is nothing special for me. I trip harder on weed.

MDMA with the addition of some opiates might be nice, but I dont use pain medication to get high....in fact, I am kind of a wuss lately and dont really get high much these days. I have to take care of my heatlh, but if I did still trip a lot, opiates would not be my drug of choice unless I had chronic pain.
 
RedBaron said:
I see bliss and euphoria this way:
Ignorance is bliss. Like Sentience said, I see bliss as a lack of anxiety or cares.
Euphoria to me, is an intense happy feeling. If I'm rolling, it's euphoric, but sometimes I'm so twacked out that I can't call it blissful, just the happiness is bursting through everything else.

Bliss is euphoria, but not all euphoria is bliss.
My 2 cents.
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I agree totally.
 
So a little update..

I tried p'lugging and that yielded minor effects, mostly physical effects such as heavy limbs..not much else besides that. No bliss/euphoria. And i plugged one bag of very nice east coast H.

After that somewhat disappointing experience I grabbed a few rigs at the local cvs and shot up 1/3 of a bag to be on the safe side. I felt a rush, but no euphoria/bliss again. The high was similar to when i sniffed it a few days earlier.

The next night (like 30 mins ago) I shot up the other 2/3 of the bag. Yes the rush was stronger, but once again there was not a single second of bliss/euphoria. If anything i felt slightly depressed on and off. The rush made me feel like laying back in my chair and just closing my eyes, etc. I had thought that 2/3 a bag would be plenty IV'ed because when i sniffed that much I was nodding out for a good few hours (although i had no euphoria then either). After the rush i felt kinda pissed off and angry. I have heard that this sometimes happens when not enough H was shot up. Anyone else have some ideas about this scenario?

So i am kinda pissed now after trying almost every ROA except smoking and STILL no damn euphoria! Should i just increase the dose when IV'ing? Any ideas/past experiences are welcome and much appreciated,
thanks.
 
Besides dope, honestly for straight euphoria/warmth of legs and a little sedation....
I find hydrocodone to be the best. 80mg or so for me. For straight warmth of arms and legs about 80mg of morphine plugged is the best thing for me. I've got a pretty good tolerance.
Maybe H isn't for you. Or maybe you need to get a different batch. Usually if you get a nod, the euphoria would be pretty prevalent.

I know Cane said people think dope is cut with fentanyl more often than it is. (He's correct) But that is the only opiate where I get a nod and absolutely no euphoria. I think it sucks because of this, and its pretty easy to OD on trying to chase that euphoria that will never come. Although that mild rush you get from smoking fentanyl is nice and incredibly addicting.
 
In my experience at least, snorting Heroin sucks. I actually feel sicker from Heroin when I snort it than I do when I shoot it, & the effects aren't anywhere near as good.
If you're going to do Heroin, unfortunately you've really just got to shoot it. Smoking it definitely works much better than snorting it does, but you waste a TON of Heroin when you do that, & it's still of course definitely not as good as IV.
 
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