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Snortable oxymorphone
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paradoxcycle
Bluelight Crew
Oh God, DON'T TRADE IT FOR ANYTHING!! Some people will NEVER run into amps of oxymorphone in their lives; this is possibly a once in a lifetime opportunity!!
If you aren't willing to bang it or plug it (which is understandable by the way) then I think really your only option will be to insufflate, eating/swallowing it would be a waste. I am hoping maybe fastandbulbous or negrogesic will have a solution as far as evaporation but so far the nose spray bottle idea seems like the most efficient.
If you aren't willing to bang it or plug it (which is understandable by the way) then I think really your only option will be to insufflate, eating/swallowing it would be a waste. I am hoping maybe fastandbulbous or negrogesic will have a solution as far as evaporation but so far the nose spray bottle idea seems like the most efficient.
blahblahblah
Bluelighter
Oxymorphone amps come in 2 forumulations:
1mg/mL - 1mL ampul
1.5mg/mL - 10mL ampul
The amp also contains: sodium chloride, methylparaben, and propylparaben. The 1mL amp only contains oxymorphone and sodium chloride the 10mL contains oxymorphone and the other three additives.
It appears appears oxymorphone nasal bioavailabilty [43%] and Oxymorphone appears to have the solubility, potency, and absorption properties required for efficient nasal delivery, which is an alternative to injections. Anybody know the IV and IM bioavailability rates...?
http://opioids.com/oxymorphone/
I am not sure what would be the best route to go for in order to insufflate this preperation of oxymorphone, I can not tell you how irrating sodium chloride, methylparaben, and propylparaben would be to your nasal passages if snorted in liquid form. I do know that putting 1mL of solution up your nose would make it hard not to let alot of the liquid drain down your throat. Years ago when snorting liquid tar we would lay on our bed and with our head hanging over the side [upside-down] we would have somebody squirt the solution [usually .5mL-1mL] into our noses. We would than pinch our nostrils and remain upsidedown to prevent the solution draining down our throats. This would increase the absorbsion in your nasal cavity without losing to much, if you stayed in that position for a bit.
As for evaporating the solution I dont know how long it would take but we are talking miniscule 1-2mg dosages and if you had the 10mL amp you would need a very acurate scale to insure the actual dosage. I also dont know if you would lose any of the oxymorphone to evaporation or if it would degrade if you used heat or whatnot. You could always possible evaporate the solution to a more concentrated strength and than administer that nasally.
All that trouble is not worth it IMO if you are using the drug already and not afraid of a 'relapse' or whatever I see know reason why administering it corrctly with a needle should be automatically disregarded. That is your desicion and I have nothing to do with that nor with amounts to dose with. I could see fear of an OD carrying a strong adversion to needle play with this drug.
Maybe somebody else can answer the questions I could not answer for you or somebody that has used this the nasal route. Anyways report back on how it went. This is a rare street opiate and its potency is roughly 1mg when compared to 1.5mg of hydromorphone [dilaudid] when IV'd. The bioavailability of Hydromorphone is between 51.9%-49.9% nasal route and we all know how effecting in a recreational setting Dilaudid is nasally, not very. There are the facts so you can use the drug in the most effective manner one that would provide the safest and best recreational effects. IMO
Hydromorphone nasal bioavailability
1mg/mL - 1mL ampul
1.5mg/mL - 10mL ampul
The amp also contains: sodium chloride, methylparaben, and propylparaben. The 1mL amp only contains oxymorphone and sodium chloride the 10mL contains oxymorphone and the other three additives.
It appears appears oxymorphone nasal bioavailabilty [43%] and Oxymorphone appears to have the solubility, potency, and absorption properties required for efficient nasal delivery, which is an alternative to injections. Anybody know the IV and IM bioavailability rates...?
http://opioids.com/oxymorphone/
I am not sure what would be the best route to go for in order to insufflate this preperation of oxymorphone, I can not tell you how irrating sodium chloride, methylparaben, and propylparaben would be to your nasal passages if snorted in liquid form. I do know that putting 1mL of solution up your nose would make it hard not to let alot of the liquid drain down your throat. Years ago when snorting liquid tar we would lay on our bed and with our head hanging over the side [upside-down] we would have somebody squirt the solution [usually .5mL-1mL] into our noses. We would than pinch our nostrils and remain upsidedown to prevent the solution draining down our throats. This would increase the absorbsion in your nasal cavity without losing to much, if you stayed in that position for a bit.
As for evaporating the solution I dont know how long it would take but we are talking miniscule 1-2mg dosages and if you had the 10mL amp you would need a very acurate scale to insure the actual dosage. I also dont know if you would lose any of the oxymorphone to evaporation or if it would degrade if you used heat or whatnot. You could always possible evaporate the solution to a more concentrated strength and than administer that nasally.
All that trouble is not worth it IMO if you are using the drug already and not afraid of a 'relapse' or whatever I see know reason why administering it corrctly with a needle should be automatically disregarded. That is your desicion and I have nothing to do with that nor with amounts to dose with. I could see fear of an OD carrying a strong adversion to needle play with this drug.
Maybe somebody else can answer the questions I could not answer for you or somebody that has used this the nasal route. Anyways report back on how it went. This is a rare street opiate and its potency is roughly 1mg when compared to 1.5mg of hydromorphone [dilaudid] when IV'd. The bioavailability of Hydromorphone is between 51.9%-49.9% nasal route and we all know how effecting in a recreational setting Dilaudid is nasally, not very. There are the facts so you can use the drug in the most effective manner one that would provide the safest and best recreational effects. IMO
Hydromorphone nasal bioavailability
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Ok I'm sorry I said my comment wrong... It would be a lot more effective if you IV'd it, but if not that and not plugging. I'd put it in a spray bottle.
Blah...thats was very informative but i didnt understand some of it.....are you saying snorting it should be a good bet or that the "bioavailability rate" (which im pretty sure is how much its available to your body to be used) means its actually less effective thru snorting than dilaudid would be?
^^^also, forgot to add,
No i aint using the drug. i aint used Diesel in a year and since then i pop somepills and sip some syrup from time to time.
never did oxymorph before, another reason imma try and avoid needles, cuz my fam cant go through this shit again if something bad did happen.
No i aint using the drug. i aint used Diesel in a year and since then i pop somepills and sip some syrup from time to time.
never did oxymorph before, another reason imma try and avoid needles, cuz my fam cant go through this shit again if something bad did happen.
paradoxcycle
Bluelight Crew
I believe what blah means is that Dilaudid (hydromorphone) and oxymorphone both have poor oral & nasal bioavailability compared to IV so it would be a waste to take them orally or nasally. But if you have ruled out IV or IM definitely than I think your only logical option would be nasal.
himynameis
Bluelighter
Bingo.paradoxcycle said:
Would sniffing oxymorphone be more or less better than sniffing a phat line of oxycodone? I'm wondering if anyone has both experiences.... please enlighten me! Doses......... I'd like to know the doses as well
soundphaRm
Bluelighter
^^That depends on your tolerance...for a newbie, I'd start with 1-2 mg of oxymorphone, and work your way up. It's a little more potent than hydromorphone (say 2 mg hydromorphone is roughly equivalent to 1.4 mg oxymorphone)...![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
K'dOUTinAZ
Bluelighter
Currently Oxymorphone isn't readily available for prescription in tablet form but there has been an approvable letter received from the FDA October 2003. It has yet to hit the market, but as of right now Endo Pharmaceuticals has the product, EN3203, in development; instant release Oxymorphone in tablet form. The product EN3202 represents extended release Oxymorphone in a tablet formulation. But as of right now, Oxymorphone HCL is only available in 1 mg/mL 1 mL ampuls and 1.5 mg/mL 10 mL multiple dose ampules under the trade name Numorphan, which are intended for IV/IM use. 5mg Rectal suppositories are also available.
DexterMeth
Bluelighter
^I keep hearing a bunch of conflicting data on how much more potent oxymorphone is to dilaudid. Sometimes i read that it's 2 to 2 1/2 times stronger sometimes half as strong..etc.
the truth? facts to back it up?
the truth? facts to back it up?
K'dOUTinAZ
Bluelighter
1mg IV Oxymorphone = 1.5mg IV Hydromorphone/Oral 7.5mg
10mg 'per rectum' Oxymorphone = 1.5mg IV Hydromorphone/Oral 7.5mg
Oxymorphone is not available PO (oral tablet form)
1mg IV Oxymorphone = 20mg Oral Oxycodone
10mg 'per rectum' Oxymorphone = 20mg Oral Oxycodone
So as you can see, Oxymorphone is a great opioid when used intravenously but does not produce such a potent buzz when used rectally. However, you have to realize that the Rectal Suppositories have a much longer duration. I have used Numorphan many times via intravenous and have always been very pleased with the outcome. I don't put things in my ass so I can't speak for the Suppositories.
Source:
http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.htm
10mg 'per rectum' Oxymorphone = 1.5mg IV Hydromorphone/Oral 7.5mg
Oxymorphone is not available PO (oral tablet form)
1mg IV Oxymorphone = 20mg Oral Oxycodone
10mg 'per rectum' Oxymorphone = 20mg Oral Oxycodone
So as you can see, Oxymorphone is a great opioid when used intravenously but does not produce such a potent buzz when used rectally. However, you have to realize that the Rectal Suppositories have a much longer duration. I have used Numorphan many times via intravenous and have always been very pleased with the outcome. I don't put things in my ass so I can't speak for the Suppositories.
Source:
http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.htm
DexterMeth
Bluelighter
Damn, i thought i'd be good IV'ing 1.5mg ...but if 1mg is = to 20migs oral condone....shit looks like i would need something more like 3-4.... should i not be making a comparison like this..as the morphone IV experience will be much more powerful than oral codone...or does this sound right?
for the record 40mg codone IV wouldnt even be enough for me.
for the record 40mg codone IV wouldnt even be enough for me.
Ghettotastic_bong
Bluelighter
I'm not really sure why no one has reccomended the obvious method of preparing oxymorphone for nasal use, which would be simply pouring the fluid from the ampules into an open container with a large surface area, and allowing it to slowly evaporate, and scraping up the powder with a razor blade after it has dried.
Due to the unknown melting/boiling point of oxymorphone, i'd be hesitant to heat the solution (to any extensive point), but if you point a fan at the fluid, it should evaporate.
I could be missing something, but it seems pretty straightforward to me.
Due to the unknown melting/boiling point of oxymorphone, i'd be hesitant to heat the solution (to any extensive point), but if you point a fan at the fluid, it should evaporate.
I could be missing something, but it seems pretty straightforward to me.
blahblahblah
Bluelighter
Do a search for nasal hydromorphone, and you will see the resonses generally are it wasnt worth it. I am saying your best bet would be to IV it but since your set against that my point is mute. Thats just my opinion take it how you wish.
The 2 drugs seem to behave similar went taken nasally and they are pretty close together when comparing potency.
Well damn.
How im supposed to not OD if i did shoot it? Man like i said i aint done diesel in a year. i dont fuck with this shit anymore but....the once in a lifetime opportunity shit is like turnin my brain know what i mean?
i dont know now............
a oxymorphone high to me woul probably be just as good snorted, considereing i hardly ever do opiates anymore and 40mg of OC would get me off prolly.
know what im sayin? to yall its like second best but to me, your second best would prolly be bangin. (i mean bangin like ''that would probably be really good'' not bangin like shootin up.)
How im supposed to not OD if i did shoot it? Man like i said i aint done diesel in a year. i dont fuck with this shit anymore but....the once in a lifetime opportunity shit is like turnin my brain know what i mean?
i dont know now............
a oxymorphone high to me woul probably be just as good snorted, considereing i hardly ever do opiates anymore and 40mg of OC would get me off prolly.
know what im sayin? to yall its like second best but to me, your second best would prolly be bangin. (i mean bangin like ''that would probably be really good'' not bangin like shootin up.)
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
^ Each to their own, if you don't want to administer anything rectally, that is your choice and no-one should be giving you grief for not doing it that way. I refuse point blank to snort anything because my sinuses get infected easily - anybody trying to tell me I have to snort something will eventually get told to fuck off in no uncertain terms.
As long as you're aware of the pros & cons of each method of administration I think that no-one should try and dictate to you how to take the drug of your choice
As long as you're aware of the pros & cons of each method of administration I think that no-one should try and dictate to you how to take the drug of your choice
the problem with snorting is this,and i dont think anyone has addressed this issue. you are talking about a few miligrams in solution, if you dry that out, you wont be able to see it, much less sniff it up. so if you wont plug it, and you wont shoot it, you are totally out of luck. i suggest you trade it for somthing else or sell it to me. :D
