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Smoking Tar Heroin

yeah smoking is WAY better than IV. (although i have never IV'd) I have done H tons of times (off and on addict i suppose) and when I smoke , i do it good. better than any of my friends. In fact im very talented at vaporizing and inhailing most drugs including meth.

but the only drug i really really crave is smokin H. I would never consider a needle. Even when ppl have presented the opputunity .. I just know its bad.

But smoking H.. ahh god. I had a gram on my way driving threw a few states.. with my father.. and after a few hours, when we finiallly go to a hotel in Nevada; I smoked and smoked for about 10 or 15 straight minutes, holding in each breath for as long as a minute or so. The feeling of "climbing" with each breath is wayyyy better than sex ... wayyy better. and thats just with smoking.
 
The problem with heroin is it's so moorish. Once you start regular use it's a rocky road. If only the government would see sense and allow hypes to BUY the stuff from the pharmacist. In the UK, a 100mg dry amp of diamorphine hydrochloride is about 2.70. OK, round it up to 5 quid, it's still twice as much as a point of brown and you can snort it.
 
^^^"yeah smoking is WAY better than IV. (although i have never IV'd)"


do you even think before you type?8)

how can you say that smoking is better than IV if you have never used a needle??8)

i happen to enjoy smoking but IV is a whole different ball game, really no comparison,its like apples and grapes. smoking is a waste compared to IV but if i have a decent amount of dope i smoke just because i like it for some reason:\
 
snowblowjoe said:
cant do it at work either too much paraphanelia to bring with me.
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why don't you just cook a shot ahead of time, load the syringe and bring the pre-prepped shot to work with you? one needle is less paraphanelia than foil, a straw, and a lighter.

IV beats smoking any day...i started out IVing then my friend who was the first to give me H was getting scared i would hurt myself IVing so he made me smoke it...smoking is shit, it's not the same AT ALL. the high is completely different, not to mention no rush...i mean half the point of doing dope is for the rush...and you can't really compare the two methods if you've never IVed...also smoking will turn your teeth nasty and brown, and it smells/tastes awful

i don't know anyone who started IVing and switched to smoking
"it feels too good" ahhahahah
 
^^^ if you load the shot and bring it to work it will degrade into morphine it wont be the same but it would still be better than smokeing.


i recently had a situation where i could not have the privacy to prep shots four or five times a day.

so i had to preload some of the shots and it was ok just not as strong and it gave the pins and needles feeling when shot.
 
you're right, but it takes like 10+ hours for the H to turn to morphine. most work shifts are around 8 hours long. even if you had a 12 hour shift your break wouldn't be at the very end of it
 
i am not sure but i was under the impression that it takes a lot less time to break down,it really does not change it that much it will still keep you from getting sick it just wont have the same high
 
Honestly smoking black tar is worthless, in my experiences anyway. I'd just stick with shooting it, though black tar does have that really awesome pork chop taste when you smoke it...
 
^why in the world would you think that "shooting is better" ... heroin is bad. Shooting is worse. and if you want to truly fuck up your life, just start an IV heroin habit.

Smoking heroin, is the ONLY acceptable route of administration in my opionion. You do have to be good at it though
 
you are fooling yourself if you think smoking heroin will not fuck up your life,you said it heroin is badd the MOA makes little difference both will fuck you over in the end ,if you are going down that road you might as well enjoy it to the fullest.

people who smoke heroin and then have the nerve to judge people who inject have a special place in withdrawel hell reserved for them
 
johnnyb420 said:
you are fooling yourself if you think smoking heroin will not fuck up your life,you said it heroin is badd the MOA makes little difference both will fuck you over in the end ,if you are going down that road you might as well enjoy it to the fullest.

people who smoke heroin and then have the nerve to judge people who inject have a special place in withdrawel hell reserved for them
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Right on. I've never shot smack in my life but I've smoked my fair share while the people around me were shooting. We all got just as junk sick when the smack ran out. I guess some people need someone to look down on. It's not even drug snobbery, but MOA snobbery! People who shoot smack are just that, PEOPLE.
 
Landoallah said:
How i smoke tar no one else seems to do...but it works great :) take a pen tube( or something equally sturdy) and fold the tin foil around the end of the tube so the tin foil looks like it is a "cover" to the tube. Next slide the tin foil "cover" off and put piece of tar in the bottom of it....light non directly and inhale. People say it's stupid, but when you get it right, i enjoy it better than chasing the dragon.
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Or... you could use a glass test tube with a small hole in it. Better for you than inhaling shit off of foil. Also, a hollowed out light bulb works nice.
 
whatever. .. if you want to risk getting hepatitis, absceses and other stuff.

Im not putting myself on a pedistel or being snobbish. I just think you are being reactive and defensive because you know how horrible shooting up is compared to smoking.

Plain and simple it is evil shit, but shooting yourself is stupid peroid. its a bad life decision to do H, but its worse to shoot it than smoke it.

besides look at the name of the thread dumbasses
 
ok..

just happened to find three sealed B and D syringes.... thinking about trying to slam a shot while in WD's and see how it feels...

i know im a big hypocrite... but then again i've never really been curious until now... i shouldnt
 
motiv311 said:
ok..

just happened to find three sealed B and D syringes.... thinking about trying to slam a shot while in WD's and see how it feels...

i know im a big hypocrite... but then again i've never really been curious until now... i shouldnt
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like i was saying all MOA evevtually lead to the same place not even a week ago you were all high and mighty about how bad shooting dope is now you are ready to spike up?????do your self a favor and dont do it you are right about needles they are evil my point earlier was just that eventually drugs lead the same place even if you dont use needles
 
how stupid is this shit.

MOA means little to nothing. sure SOME people get addicted to using needles, period, but thats another issue.

god ive injected east coast powder dope and snorted the shit too...IV is superior in every aspect. same addiction just more efficient.

its stupid cause the rush from IV heroin is GOOD, but no better than the come-up of oral oxycodone IMO...i guess some prefer that instant gratification. again, no effect on addiction.

see the trend?
 
ktx49 said:
how stupid is this shit.

MOA means little to nothing. sure SOME people get addicted to using needles, period, but thats another issue.

god ive injected east coast powder dope and snorted the shit too...IV is superior in every aspect. same addiction just more efficient.

its stupid cause the rush from IV heroin is GOOD, but no better than the come-up of oral oxycodone IMO...i guess some prefer that instant gratification. again, no effect on addiction.

see the trend?
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How strong is the east coast powder? UK 'brown' number 3 is about 50% pure which I suspect is a lot stronger than most (but not all) of the US stuff. IV means that it gets to the opiate receptors a LOT faster so it gives more 'flash'. I've often wondered about 3-acetylation of hydromorphone OR 3,14-diacetylation of oxymorphone. Both should increase in potency the same way morphine->diamorphine does. In fact, 3,14-diacetyl oxymorphone is supposed to be 6.4x stronger than the unesterified version...
 
NY, not near any medium or large cities and we generally get white and beige powder, very rarely we get some brown stuff. Id estimate it at 30-60% based on a couple busts and personal experience with stuff from various places. It varies to much to give one number. You can get a gram for like 80 dollars if you know the right people. Bags are typically 50-100 mg, but like I said that varies too ive seen really crappy bags that were like 30 mgs and good ones that were mindblowingly large.

And I know for a fact NYC and Jersey has one of the two following A)bigger bags or B) purer stuff.

So dont sleep on east coast powder...
 
OK, well in the UK, you can buy points (always 100mg) 10 pounds each, two for 15 pounds , 1/2 grams for 25 pounds , grams for 40-50 pounds then oz's for 600-800 pounds. The strength is 45-55% quite steadily.
I've read somewhere that 1/2 of all the smack users in the USA are in NYC, is that true or total bilge?
 
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