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Smoking Salvia Divonorum aka. the Diviner's Sage...Need some advice.

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Okay, so here's the plan. I found a house that has in fact got Salvia Divonorum. And so I picked up 4 dead looking leaves and took them home with me. Now, is there any general advice as to what I should do? I mean, should I water pipe it with a home-made CP? How long should I keep it in my lungs for? Ya know, the basic shit that one can find on Erowid, but I'm far too lazy to type in Erowid in to my browser thing a ma-jig.
 
belarki said:
From my personal, very limited, experience with salvia you'll need more than that and would be best off doing an extraction & concentrating the matter somewhat before smoking. Good luck :)
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It all depends on the quality of the Sally. My first experience was simply smoking leaf and I had a full OBE.

Make sure you pack a huge cone, get it really hot with preferably a jet lighter, take it all in one go and hold it for as long as you can.

Also if you were in a country where it was legal to do so you could ask the person that gave you the leaf for a cutting so that you can grow your own.
 
my first experience with sally was of the plain jane leaves but this just gave me a very nice sedative type feeling.
yeah you definately need to look at extracting it first, my best experience was with a 15x OTC amsterdam dose, this truely opened my eyes to the world of salvia.
 
misteee said:
my first experience with sally was of the plain jane leaves but this just gave me a very nice sedative type feeling.
yeah you definately need to look at extracting it first, my best experience was with a 15x OTC amsterdam dose, this truely opened my eyes to the world of salvia.
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I definitely disagree with the need for an extraction. If you have a strong enough variety and know how to smoke it properly, basic leaf can easily produce mind blowing trips.

Back when it was legal here I remember some leaf in particular that was stronger than 5x extracts.
 
As VB stated, there is weak and strong Salvia leaf, it all comes down to the % of salvinoran A that is produced by the individual plant. Even if it's weak sally D leaf, you can get a friend to pack cones for you and just do a few in a row for a decent trip.

I personally can't stand this substance. Every time I have used it from straight leaf through to 40x it has just been extremely irritating and I have wanted it to end as soon as I peaked. I find it's effects are very rough in comparison to say DMT and it gives me very unpleasant body sensations.
 
PsiloSubNaut said:
I personally can't stand this substance. Every time I have used it from straight leaf through to 40x it has just been extremely irritating and I have wanted it to end as soon as I peaked. I find it's effects are very rough in comparison to say DMT and it gives me very unpleasant body sensations.
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I have always wanted it to end the second it kicks in as it instantly reminds me how terrifying an experience it can be. This is one drug that can seriously mess you up in the head if you don't understand it properly.

Riding the travellator is good fun though :)
 
Try to get ahold of some freshly picked leaves (like really fresh). Apparently salvia leaves oxidise in the same way that apples do when they go brown, so when you smoke dried extracts you're missing out on the good stuff. The shamans never smoked it, they would chew the fresh leaves for an ayahuasca-like experience. Well, that's what I've heard anywayz
 
Verybuffed said:
I have always wanted it to end the second it kicks in as it instantly reminds me how terrifying an experience it can be. This is one drug that can seriously mess you up in the head if you don't understand it properly.

Riding the travellator is good fun though :)
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I think it's one drug that you either really love or really don't. I find that people who get plenty of DMT experience before using sally, are more likely to dislike it's effects.

Each to their own. I have friends who hate DMT and love nothing more than smoking hay stacker cones of 40x sally d. Heck, I know people that prefer to huff butane over doing nitrous 8)

studman69 said:
Try to get ahold of some freshly picked leaves (like really fresh). Apparently salvia leaves oxidise in the same way that apples do when they go brown, so when you smoke dried extracts you're missing out on the good stuff. The shamans never smoked it, they would chew the fresh leaves for an ayahuasca-like experience. Well, that's what I've heard anywayz
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I have chewed the fresh leaf a few times and found it to be a very mild experience. A couple of times when I chewed 10-15 large leaves (2-3 leaves every 10-15 mins) it got a bit hectic, but it was far from an ayahuasca session.

I will have to look into this oxidization and report back. Extractions are salvinoran A specific so I would like to know if that chemical is effected by oxidization. I don't think anybody that has had enhanced leaf would say that they missed out on much ;)
 
Yeh last time i had it was like ... hmm.. probs 2 years ago now.. it was only 15 x haha and i had this intense feeling come over my body!

Like i was being sucked into the couch and then my left side of my face was MELTING like it felt like it was actually slopping down and just kinda melting off..

Was crazy! Amazing sensation.. very bizzare. It felt like i had a hectic dose of novacaine and i was like.. bragh . .bluuuuuuggghhhhh hahahahaha
 
Verybuffed said:
I definitely disagree with the need for an extraction. If you have a strong enough variety and know how to smoke it properly, basic leaf can easily produce mind blowing trips.

Back when it was legal here I remember some leaf in particular that was stronger than 5x extracts.
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yeah i tend to think my leaf was bellow average quantity of salvinorin A this is due to me getting it on the black market.... unfortunately i didnt get to try it when it was legal here, just in amsterdam.... rocked me pretty good, but i got a nice head ache afterwards
 
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Chewing on about 50 dried then rehydrated leaves is the best way to have savlia. Smoother come and not so I your face. The plant isn't really meant to be smoked, and I doubt you would come across a shamon that would. It has alot to offer but very much unlike other psychs, it holds very limited recreational value.

Dead leaves are a no go my friend. If they've gone yellowish or any colour that doesn't resemble green, you're going to have a very hard time getting high off of it. Ask if you can pinch a couple fresh ones and dry them out under the sun. Patience is the key with this lady. When smoking straight leaves it's good to have in combo with another psych, after You have found your feet.

Should also add ful blown salvia experiences definetly require a sitter
 
Err... Topic? Just a question on my behalf, the op question has been answered but ausdd doesn't really have a salvia discussion. Could we keep this open as such a thing?
 
sorry verybuffed..
was altered last night, and found your comment nasty.. i dont know how but i did.!!
sorry verybuffed + psilo for the confusion absolutely nothing is nasty nd wen i get the chance ill edit it.
** shakes hands***
 
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