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smoking pot when you're down

someone asked why the quality of the herb would matter, in reference to my first post where I suggested that ganja lazer might help reason out any of the confusion out of the sickness (like "the downness, it's spreading everywhere"...if you feel that way, stop, take a breather, and analyze). herb just enhances, amplifies, sensitizes. ) if you are using schwag or middies or anywhere in between, or even some cheap or mostly indica high-grade, it's likely to be a bit sleepier, put you to sleep in the resin.

But I maintain my position that herb can function as good medicine, and maybe can for the OP. The way this is being addressed resembles the way any drug habit would be addressed, which is to note that with the use of a potent psychotropic you can fall into patterns of behavior that obstruct learning the skills needed to work with reality, uplift your mood, deal with your problem mentally and practically...the easy fix that fixes nothing. But that's just classic drug abuse.
 
pot works for depression as long as you don't burn yourself out. and you can't expect a chemical (THC) to fight your depression for you; you have to help THC fight it by staying active. exercise, go for a walk, play an instrument, etc., instead of sitting down and wasting time.
 
I think its pretty obvious thats the case, not just with weed but all drugs. I mean if you use drugs to deal with problems you obviously become less versed in dealing with them in traditional ways (whatever they are :p). When its said and done it doesn't bother me much, theres always drugs and/or alcohol on hand so as a coping mechanism its a handy one so long as you can put up with the adverse effects.
 
One thing I love to do when I'm down is to go on a few hour bike ride (I'm a cyclist), then come back home, drink a few beers, and smoke a few bowls.
 
I used to smoke weed all the time and assumed all the sketchy and paranoid feeling were natural.

now i realise if i only smoke it when i'm 100% content to do so and it feels so natural it is like fresh air and only makes me feel positive.
 
I don't feel like it helps me in a mental sense. It helps my stomach and that's about it. It never really brings me from a sad place to a happy one. I have opiates for that (which is worse IMO).

I would kind of advise against it. Cause lets be honest it is a chemical that you are putting in your body, and if you start doing it every time you are sad then you could start using that as your only outlet, and if you are in a place where you can't smoke, then how are you going to deal with the situation. I'm just playing a little Devil's Advocate here, I mean I'm all for pot smoking and stuff, but I do know what it's like to go for something every time I get down too.

Not saying that pot will do that to you, but I suppose it depends on if you have an addictive personality to some degree. I would just have other outlets and make sure that wasn't my only one. Cause then if you can't smoke when you are upset you might get more down on yourself.
 
tree said:
someone asked why the quality of the herb would matter, in reference to my first post where I suggested that ganja lazer might help reason out any of the confusion out of the sickness (like "the downness, it's spreading everywhere"...if you feel that way, stop, take a breather, and analyze). herb just enhances, amplifies, sensitizes. ) if you are using schwag or middies or anywhere in between, or even some cheap or mostly indica high-grade, it's likely to be a bit sleepier, put you to sleep in the resin.

But I maintain my position that herb can function as good medicine, and maybe can for the OP. The way this is being addressed resembles the way any drug habit would be addressed, which is to note that with the use of a potent psychotropic you can fall into patterns of behavior that obstruct learning the skills needed to work with reality, uplift your mood, deal with your problem mentally and practically...the easy fix that fixes nothing. But that's just classic drug abuse.
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I disagree. If I'm really down I hardly want to get the introspective trippy sativa high. Indica will be more likely to make you tired sure but I certainly would recommend it to someone down over a sativa dominant strain.

Giving a real sativa to a depressed person would be like giving someone mushrooms when they want xanex IMO. Idk when I'm stressed and down I want to relax and get away from it not take it head on but I guess it would be situational.
 
i personally find weed to a great mood stabilizer/elevator (and generally prefer sativas for this purpose). if i'm depressed, i can smoke a bowl and be in a much better mood within in five or ten minutes. i don't think that using weed this way is farfetched either--it's not like you need to smoke constantly to benefit from herb's effect on depression.

IMO, the overall tone of this thread is dismissive of the seriousness of depression and of the chemical components of depression. people don't just will themselves out of serious depression, and the thought patterns that are a part of depression make it really hard to escape from. this is where i find weed to be useful, since it puts me in a more positive frame of mind and stops the negative thought loops that are a part of being depressed.
 
jezushmfchrist said:
usually in the end.. when its all said and done.. i felt even more depressed after i got high and came down..

marijuana is not some wonder drug that makes everything better.. marijuana enhances feelings/thoughts.. and if you're feeling down.. its only gonna make it worse
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thats true, depression is a bitch tho...

i nkow some1 who self medicates themselves with getting high on pills and weed and anything all day cuz ofthere depression... now, he finally relized after me and his brother were telling him it cant last forever, and that "forever" point came to him a few wweeks ago... not to mention he got addicted to opiates...

now hes in rehab

drugs arent the answer

but if u are going to use them for happiness

use weed, not pills...yes pills will make u happier, but addiction is a bitch



i know this is harm reduction, but try 15mgs of oxycodone or hydrocodone...

when i was depressed, i did this, and obviosl i felt amazing, but the next day, it was like, "wow, i didnt know i can even be that happy pappy or feel that good in the hood."... but long story short, im addicted to opiates.

depression and drugs uusually dont work out....o but OF COURSE if u get a script for lexapro IT WILL....................NOT!!!!!
 
i don't have depression, i just feel down sometimes like anyone else.

a lot of the time i smoke weed when im down, not to get that introspective high but more of a tired happy high. but i also do other things when i'm sad... that is, sometimes (usually if i dont have weed). is it common that over time occasional weed-as-pick me up use leads to harder use of the herb..? i mean, i guess if i was sad more often this habit could become negative.

so what i'm hearing you guys say is that i should only smoke pot when im in a good enough mood and do other things when im not.

yeah thanks for the suggestion pillpoppinganimal but im not into other drugs besides weed and the occasional study tool adderall.

and just wondering, which of the "more traditional" (weed seems perfectly timeless and traditional to me) methods AREN't escapist? i would like to know.
 
I've found that if I'm in a bad mood, depressed or otherwise 'down' , Cannabis will take me out of it but on the come down...well it results in panic attacks over irrational things.

But...then again if I'm 'down' as in bored, then aboslutely. It's the PERFECT fix.
 
madgeXR said:
i don't have depression, i just feel down sometimes like anyone else.

a lot of the time i smoke weed when im down, not to get that introspective high but more of a tired happy high. but i also do other things when i'm sad... that is, sometimes (usually if i dont have weed). is it common that over time occasional weed-as-pick me up use leads to harder use of the herb..? i mean, i guess if i was sad more often this habit could become negative.

so what i'm hearing you guys say is that i should only smoke pot when im in a good enough mood and do other things when im not.

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and just wondering, which of the "more traditional" (weed seems perfectly timeless and traditional to me) methods AREN't escapist? i would like to know.
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what i would say is to not get too worried if you use weed to escape every now and again. it's perfectly natural sometimes to just want to get away.

the real issue isn't what you use to escape -- it's whether or not you eventually deal with your problems.

so if you're just down about a crappy day or whatever, weed can be a great way to get a better perspective on things and let little shitty things go. a lot of times i'll be real wound up about some minor slight (fight w/ gf, road rage, etc.) and after a hit or two i all of a sudden realize that it's not worth worrying about, or that it wasn't as hostile as i thought. but the flip-side is using weed to IGNORE your problems . . like smoking instead of showing up to a class you've been having problems with. or smoking when you're for-real depressed. that often leads to the anxiety/bad-trip feelings a lot of long-time users sometimes experience (and the exacerbation of your initial problems, as well).

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a couple more natural things that always lift my mood include driving with loud music, any sort of exercise and generally anything I can do outside at all. sometimes i even find studying helps get my mind onto something else, and a few hours later i'm distracted from my problem and i've accomplished something. oh, and just plain reading a novel. honestly probably the best way to get out of your own head for a second.
 
I seem to be away from the trend but... Long story short, I was on Xanax / Lexapro for a long time, altered who I was pretty dramatically and I dropped cold turkey... Lets just say weed literally saved me from going insane, I don't know what I would have done without it.

It effects everyone differently. I mellow out and see things more clearly (well, in a way) after I toke up. Just limit yourself responsibly. Medical MJ is basically used in this manner.
 
I smoke sometimes when Im down. It helps me think things out and realize whats really important
 
Chimeric said:
pot works for depression as long as you don't burn yourself out. and you can't expect a chemical (THC) to fight your depression for you; you have to help THC fight it by staying active. exercise, go for a walk, play an instrument, etc., instead of sitting down and wasting time.
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huh? depression is all about chemicals. exercise releases endorphins, but only if the person is healthy and has normal dopamine/serotonin levels. i don't get any pleasure out of exercise...sex isn't even that good anymore...but i still do it to keep myself in check.

good diet is the key. you get dopamine from all kinds of protein sources...

THC is known to work as a mild antidepressant for some people. that's probably why you can get a doctor's recommendation for medical marijuana if you have depression or anxiety.
 
Gormur said:
huh? depression is all about chemicals. exercise releases endorphins, but only if the person is healthy and has normal dopamine/serotonin levels. i don't get any pleasure out of exercise...sex isn't even that good anymore...but i still do it to keep myself in check.

good diet is the key. you get dopamine from all kinds of protein sources...

THC is known to work as a mild antidepressant for some people. that's probably why you can get a doctor's recommendation for medical marijuana if you have depression or anxiety.
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fair points, and i guess i didn't make myself clear enough.

what i was trying to emphasize, though, was that no matter how much weed i smoke, i am still unhappy/prone to depression if i am not doing anything productive.
 
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