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Smoking meth

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yasmapal

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I have smoked meth a few times, and each time I have inhaled and held the hit in as long as possible, although the hits weren't huge and they didn't particularly hurt my lungs. I smoked some last nite though with these hardcore meth heads and they said not to hold it in, they also said to not even inhale, only into the mouth. They were taking HUGE hits, and I'm assuming they dont inhale cause it would hurt too much. But this just seems like a waste of meth to me, because you get much better absorbtion from inhaling and holding it in, right? Is there any reason for what they said?
 
reason?
not really.
i'll bet my left nut if u ask em why they don't hold it in they'll tell u some BS about it crystalizing inside your lungs.
but yea, every time i've smoked it i've gotten strange ass looks when i hold it in like i'm smokin some bud.
i get a hellofa lot more outta it this way cause like u said, holding it in can increase the ammount absorbed
 
i mean , its worse to hold it in, but its bad enough to smoke it at all. i used to not hold it in at all, but after awhile i started to hold at least 10 secs.
 
Well I found out that the meth they were smoking still had some acetone or some solvent on it because they did not do the final wash with water because of the loss of mass that would result. Wut I have I believe to be methylaminorex now, I'm almost 100% on that, so would there be any difference on it being harmful? Is the smoke that bad for you?
 
Various people i know who smoke glass have told me NEVER to hold it in after you take the hit because having it in your lungs an excessive amount of time supposedly can cause it to recrystallize...
 
Drayen just told everyone in the thread that the recrystalization thing is bullshit.
 
Well I notice two things that make me lean towards the possibility of it recrystallizing in your lungs. 1 is that the longer I hold the smoke in, the less smoke comes out. Like if I take a huge ass hit and hold that shit in for 30 seconds, almost no smoke comes out. But if I hold it in for like 3 seconds, a huge cloud of smoke comes out. And 2, all along the stem tiny little crystals form everytime I smoke it. When I heat these they turn to smoke. What else could it be but recrystallized meth, and if it happens inside the pipe, why couldn't it happen inside your lungs, and that CAN'T be healthy! Please, I'd really like some first hand knowledge about this or some sources would be great!
 
Ok, time for a little basic chemistry. What you are smoking is methamphetamine hydrochloride, which is soluble in water. Now, what makes up a good portion of your body...water. Meth cannot recrystalize in your lungs,and any solid that did form would almost instantly dissolve and simply be absorbed by your body. Ergo, meth recrystalizing in your lungs is utter bullshit.
 
Originally posted by yasmapal:
Well I notice two things that make me lean 1 is that the longer I hold the smoke in, the less smoke comes out. Like if I take a huge ass hit and hold that shit in for 30 seconds, almost no smoke comes out. But if I hold it in for like 3 seconds, a huge cloud of smoke comes out.
you weren't serious when you posted this right? no-one old enough to smoke meth can be dumb enough to post 'reasonings' like this... that just cant be...
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Originally posted by liquidocean:
Well Drayen might just be wrong. Got a source for your info?
why don't you think about the situation?
if it DID re-crystalize, it would most likly be broken down by the body, then released by the body in one way or another(i.e. sweating, urinating, excretion...ect.)
doesn't this sound right,
or would it just HAPPEN to stay on your lungs for EVER and EVER?
[ 03 June 2002: Message edited by: euphoria83ca ]
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Dude, they were telling you to only suvck it into your mouth and not inhale it at all? there is no concievable way i can see that that would take any effect... how is it going to get into your bloodstream?
 
Originally posted by junglist 3000:
Dude, they were telling you to only suvck it into your mouth and not inhale it at all? there is no concievable way i can see that that would take any effect... how is it going to get into your bloodstream?
maybe he's blessed by the meth-gods of above.
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Originally posted by liquidocean:
Well Drayen might just be wrong. Got a source for your info?
LOL
well he beat me to the punch, but Grignard got what i was gonna say in the simplest terms possible.
he hit it right on the head, but here's a compleate start to finish scenario that i will gladly demonstrate(in the purpose of science of course :P) and explain.
alright then,
you have your shard(broken piece of glass+hair clip; it's all i got for now. need to go pipe shoppin) laying in front of you.
Then you reach in your baggie with your scooping implament and toss a couple of nice chunks of solid methamphetamine HCl(meth HCl(S)) onto the glass.
You take up the hooter(about 1 3/4inches of a pen in this case) in your mouth, pick up the shard by the clip, and light your bic.
NOW, here's were the chemistry starts...
you hold the lit lighter underneath the glass until the crystal starts to melt.
What you are doing here is by adding heat from the lighter, you give the individual molocules of meth HCl(S) added kinetic nrg that is used to turn it from a solid into a liquid.
EX) meth HCl(S) + heat -> meth HCl(l)
As you watch it puddle u keep the lighter moving to avoid burning the puddle(adding so much heat that you break down the chemical itself into something less active, and nastier tasting), and it eventually goes into another phase change.
Since it's already a liquid the molocules have a wide range of motion, but by adding additional heat you start to really make them move.
As you carefully heat it up, it starts to give off a gas that is meth in it's gasseous(or vapour) state.
EX2) meth HCl(l)
+ heat -> meth HCl(g)
alright kiddies(oh the irony....nm), this is where the fun thinking stuff begins...
As the meth HCl vapour comes off the puddle you take the hooter clenched in your teeth and slowly suck in the vapours.
The meth HCl(g) enters your mouth, goes down your wind-pipe, and into your lungs. Now, since ALL HCl salts are water soluable, meth is no acception. So when the gas hits the moist walls of your lungs covered in alvioli, it immedietly starts to lose energy and go into an aquous solution.
As of right now, the meth still isn't working it's magic just yet. It's in a solution with water, but it needs to get to the brain to be effective. How does this happen?
Simply put, the same way as oxygen gets there, through the alvioli in solution. The alvioli work through diffusion, by transferring something from a high area of concentration to a low area of concentration. When you breath in, the oxygen enters your lungs, goes into solution, and is diffused into the bloodsteam by the alvioli. The same thing happens with meth HCl(g).
The vapour (mostly) goes into solution, is diffused through the alvioli, enters the blood, and gets to your brain to work it's magic.
This happens again, and again, and again, etc...
unless you manage to remove ALL traces of water from your lungs, and somehow managed to not suffocate to death, crystalization isn't gonna be a problem.
phew....that was a mouthful
hopefully something was learned.
me say archive this beast :P
it would make a nice addition to the archives.
[ 04 June 2002: Message edited by: Drayen ]
p.s. ahh screw it, damm subscript doesn't wanna work for me.
[ 04 June 2002: Message edited by: Drayen ]
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it may not 'recrystalize' but afoaf sure did get a nasty white film on her tongue and back of throat after smoking it.. so who is to say that film doesnt also cover the lining of your lungs..
meth is bad :D
 
As was explained, it's not going to recrystallize in your lungs.
If you want to maximize getting high, I would hold it all in. It might be a bit worse for you but you are already smoking meth so you probably don't care much about the health aspects.
 
I just recently found how nice smoking meth can be.
Very fun and not so hard to sleep\eat on as other stuff. Makes you happy, talkative, etc.
I could see how someone could become attached to it. I loved the rush after smoking, I can only imagine the rush with IV.
I think this has been covered well enough though - you don't have to worry about the meth resolidifying and coating your lungs. Although there are obvious health risks when smoking anything, especially methamphetamines.
 
Originally posted by ahkuhstic:
it may not 'recrystalize' but afoaf sure did get a nasty white film on her tongue and back of throat after smoking it.. so who is to say that film doesnt also cover the lining of your lungs..
meth is bad :D
Actually, the nasty white film you saw were probably taste buds that died because of the smoke killing them (via heat, or something). When your taste buds die, they turn white as blood is no longer delivered to the dead bud. A tongue that is pink is considered to be healthiest because your body is quickly replacing the dead taste buds and staying pink! That's why dead people can usually be seen. Err, I mean, sick people usually have a pallid palette. :)
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Its easy to sleep/eat on METH??
You must be getting some WEAK shit.
Im sure its not the meth thats on the tounge, its dried and abused from the heat.
Have you ever put a drop of water down that little crack pipe of yours after smoking? Try it and see everything disappear!
 
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