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Stimulants Smoking meth affecting MDMA tolerance?

looneytoon7

looneytoon7

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So, I started taking MDMA/ecstasy early 2013. Then that escalated to meth use. For the last 6 months or so (I cut back a lot in the last 1 month), I was smoking meth approximately 3-6 days a week. I got sick of meth and it started to really fuck with my head and I also really missed the pill/MDMA buzz because I just wasn't getting the same high off meth anymore. I started trying pills again but most of the time they don't work or they put me in a reallllly weird headspace where I just feel really scattered and terrible and wired. Most of the time I had smoked meth before taking the pills as well. But there was one instance where I took 4 brown mitsubishis and 1 brown peace, no meth and I got that really scattered feeling. No pill buzz at all, just really scattered off 5 pills. So I'm wondering, can 6 months of relatively heavy meth use alter the way MDMA/ecstasy effects a person? Also, doing both at the same time, does that change the effects? Like, does meth "cancel out" the effects that MDMA has on the brain? Did I just get a whole bunch of really shit pills? 8(:?

Although, I should probably add this... Last Friday, I had 2 white versaces and 2 white rolexs. Lets say, I definitely felt the effects and was dancing around and chatting to everyone but on pill report, people who consider their tolerance to be med-high have had 1 or 2 of the versaces and that was enough for them. Whereas, I had 4 of the best pills around melbourne at the moment, felt really really good but still could of had more. And its not like my tolerance would be high because I take pills really often or anything, because I rarely do. So I guess what I'm trying to ask, the fact that meth damages your dopamine and seratonin receptors or whatever, does that change the way MDMA effects you? Do I just have a freakishly high tolerance to MDMA or something? Did I feel the effect of these pills because I have recently cut back my meth use a decent amount?

I don't think this makes a difference but I also use GHB.
 
Yes, in my experience amps have a cross-tolerance with MDMA.
Yes, smoking meth before trying to roll changes the effects. Don't binge on meth if you plan to roll soon.

Taking four pills in a night means you're either overdoing it or you have low quality rolls. Space out your rolls to at most once a month.
 
Yeah cross tolerance between these 2 is surprisingly strong.

Probably because meth has high enough effect on serotonin too and mdma has high enough effect on dopamine/noradrenaline too. If you keep smoking meeth multiple times a week don't expect good rolls ever. Stick to only 1 drug or alternatively, cycle between with at least 14 days in between, ie. one day meth, after 2 weeks mdma, after 2 weeks meth that should improve experience with both drugs.
 
mdma and meth have almost identical action on the brain, but MDMA is much more serotonergic and meth is more dopaminergic.
 
alot of friends taking anti depressents or anxiety meds no longer feel much from mdma
 
aussie1245 said:
alot of friends taking anti depressents or anxiety meds no longer feel much from mdma
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That is to be expected. Ironically enough, ANTI-D's can also lead to near suicidally-social thoughts/actions. That's about as bass-ackwards as a drug could ever be. Chantix also comes to mind too, in an entirely different way. The tobacco ceasation product, that is Chantix, truly does cause suicidal thoughts in many; worse still, suicidal actions in a smaller percentage of the Chantix treatment program.

I just can't wrap my head around this topic, should we remain ignorant and dirt poor? Or discover some passions.
 
^ Sorry my last post was gibberish.

I do know this: Many "Mollies" these days are simply Crystal Meth, If you're lucky 4-Mar. Not sayin pure MDMA, MDA, MDE etc aren't around, I just think it's way to cheap to substitute in some Crystal, especially when doing stamps. I find a high cap of Crystal Meth and/or 4-Mar + goes amazing with the Empathogins. High quality Crystal Meth and/or 4-Mar along with some amazing MDMA, nothing in the upper world compares.
 
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