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Heroin smoking H wont work...?

Pill__Head

Pill__Head

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The title pretty much says it.. I have been on methadone for a little over a month , rx'd 50/day , some days i would take upwards of 100.

I just recently got a couple G of the good old BTH I used to smoke, and would always do the trick, and get me sufficiently high. Now not so much, It literally doesnt even give me a buzz or anything..? I will say it does seem to make me "better" and not sick and/or withdrawling, for a couple hours or so, It constricts my pupils for a bit aswell, but no high what so ever.

Is this due to tolerance increase from the methadone.. or what could causing this..>?

thanks 8(
 
Well 1 it could be from tolerance issues of the methadone and heroin.

check out the http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/564885-Opioid-Conversion-Chart opioid conversation chart to see how it translates out

also it is said methadone has blocking powers to block other opiates from getting you high while you're on methadone... true story, my buddy could never get high while he was on MMT
 
yes when I take above 50 mg's for a prolonged period , heroin doesn't give me any euphoria. It will make me pass out though so be carefull the blocking effects don't apply to respiratory depression.
 
I am not currently on Mehtadone though. I took my last dose like, nearly 72 hours ago now. So the Methadone shouldn't be blocking the effects of the Heroin once it leaves my system, is that correct?
 
I am thinking about trying a shot, and seeing if that has any different effect, do you think that would be worthwhile?
 
I don't think that shooting Black Tar is worth if it doesn't do the job smoked anyway. Also, be prepared to lose the heroin magic forever, perhaps even faster being on methadone. Now 10 years after my first opioid use, I must say that even i.v.'ed morphine doesn't really provide me a good rush, and it ended sometime when I used methadone for a few months. It's still all there, the peace, the itching and so on, the whole world could end any time, but it's not that at all. You may think of it as of God that you've taken the name of in vain.
 
adder said:
I don't think that shooting Black Tar is worth if it doesn't do the job smoked anyway. Also, be prepared to lose the heroin magic forever, perhaps even faster being on methadone. Now 10 years after my first opioid use, I must say that even i.v.'ed morphine doesn't really provide me a good rush, and it ended sometime when I used methadone for a few months. It's still all there, the peace, the itching and so on, the whole world could end any time, but it's not that at all. You may think of it as of God that you've taken the name of in vain.
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Thus chasing the dragon, a mythological creature (high) that one will never be able to obtain (that first high... the desired rush... the satisfied feeling that "this is the one, that last one I don't need to do it anymore..")
 
adder said:
I don't think that shooting Black Tar is worth if it doesn't do the job smoked anyway. Also, be prepared to lose the heroin magic forever, perhaps even faster being on methadone. Now 10 years after my first opioid use, I must say that even i.v.'ed morphine doesn't really provide me a good rush, and it ended sometime when I used methadone for a few months. It's still all there, the peace, the itching and so on, the whole world could end any time, but it's not that at all. You may think of it as of God that you've taken the name of in vain.
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It seems logical to me, that if I were to load up a good enough sized shot, it would indeed give me more effects than smoking - which almost feels like I'm wasting my gear.
 
Yea after being on methadone your probably gonna have to shoot the stuff to get a decent rush methadone jacks your tolerance right up you probably had more opiates in your body on methadone then you've ever had before when you were doing heroin daily. I went on matinence before and that led me to iv drug use cause after that smoking didn't do it anymore.
 
Pill__Head said:
The title pretty much says it.. I have been on methadone for a little over a month , rx'd 50/day , some days i would take upwards of 100.

I just recently got a couple G of the good old BTH I used to smoke, and would always do the trick, and get me sufficiently high. Now not so much, It literally doesnt even give me a buzz or anything..? I will say it does seem to make me "better" and not sick and/or withdrawling, for a couple hours or so, It constricts my pupils for a bit aswell, but no high what so ever.

Is this due to tolerance increase from the methadone.. or what could causing this..>?

thanks 8(
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Dude, Im in the same boat, Ive got a script for methadone, I also take more than prescribed, so I run out early, and you know how strict they are about refilling this drug!!!

during the 2 weeks I am normally out of methadone, I use H, BUT, I have to wait about 3-5 days of not taking ANY methadone in order to feel the H...it sucks really bad, but due to the half life of methadone, (about 3-4 days), its still in your system and if you try to use H during this time, it wont be as intense, if you feel it at all, Ive been really desperate a few times though and did not want to wait, but I had to use ALOT of heroin just to get rid of the sick feeling, not even get a buzz! This was smoking about 2 grams over about a 12 hour period!!!

So, now, when I start getting low on methadone, i try to taper down and take about 2-3 a day, then when im almost out, I take 1-2 each day, then I have to suffer thru 2 more days with NOTHING, the first day is not too bad (mostly in your head), but 2nd day it starts to get bad, that is when I text my guy...but even doing it this way, I dont get REAL high this close to taking methadone, but after a solid week with NO methadone, the H does me nice and good, can feel it good without using a whole lot.

I mostly smoke it too, I take about a match head amount, chase it on foil, and hold that smoke in as long as I can...depending on that batch of dope, I usually feel it for hours, sometimes Ive felt it for up to 6 hours later, not the high, but still didnt feel sick or any aches or pains, so this tells me the H was still working its magic in my brain! LOL

To get a really good, nice high, where Im nodding, I have to smoke about .60-.80 of a gram.

Good luck!
 
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