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Heroin smoking h properly

MistaSmokalot

MistaSmokalot

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Ive been reading countless threads on and off this board about 'proper' technique of smoking dope on foil...

the way we do it is, break a lil chunk off, put it on foil, light from underneath...this makes the h turn from solid into a dark liquid and then smokes.... Everything Im reading is that the h should never smoke, it should vaporize...but it's next to impossible to do this...it turns into a liquid and then smokes, no chance of any vapor...and if there was vapor, no way Id feel it.

I usually get a light brown solid rock, no clue if its 3 or 4...probably 4. But everyone I know, smokes it like this...is this wrong :?
 
Put straw in mouth, hold the foil at an angle so it slides down as it's being "heated" and then light the lighter. Work the lighter around the foil and remember you are heating it, don't try to burn it. If dry try adding a little moisture to it, I find a dab a coffee or whiskey works best. Do not hold a lighter underneath to burn it, adjust the flame distance till it starts to bubble or do it's thing. Use small pieces till you get the hang of it. Now having said that if you have a choice between trying it and not trying I advise against it. It's just as addictive when smoked as any other way of using. Good luck either way.
 
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i USED TO USE A CANDLE AS THE FIRE SOURCE BECASUE imo ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO HOLD THE FOIL, A STRAW (OR WHATEVER IMPLEMENT YOU USE) AND A LIGHTER. uNLESS YOU HAVE 3 ARMS THAT IS.

tHE ONLY OTHER WAY IS TO HOLD THE TOOTER IN YOUR MOUTH AND USE YOUR HANDS FOR THE LIGHTER FOIL. bUT THIS CREATES A PROBLEM OF NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE HOW FAR AWAY THE LIGHTER IS FROM THE FOIL. mANY A TIME i WASTED GOOD HEROIN BECAUSE OF THIS. oNCE i STARTED USING A CANDLE (FIXED LOCATION) IT BECAME MUCH EASIER.
 
If you are going to use foil to smoke H, you must first remember to burn off the chemical coating on the aluminum.. it's something that is added by the company who makes it. It's harmful for one.. and two, it smokes a lot. Aluminum itself will not burn from such low heat.. it's the coating on top that causes the smoke. If after you burn it off and proceed to smoke your H and you still notice it smoking, than you're probably rushing it and holding the flame too close to the foil. In order to not just burn it.. you need to keep the flame low enough and go slow enough that it heats slowly. That's where the vapor comes from. Sounds like you're just torching your dope.
 
Disolve the heroin in water, then put the solution into a squirt bottle like eye drop and nose drop bottle . Squirt water in nose, chill for 30 mins and if you el it squirt some more.

The reason I am suggesting this method is because smoking heroin is ineffective, wasteful, naive compared to other ROAs
 
laCster said:
Disolve the heroin in water, then put the solution into a squirt bottle like eye drop and nose drop bottle . Squirt water in nose, chill for 30 mins and if you el it squirt some more.

The reason I am suggesting this method is because smoking heroin is ineffective, wasteful, naive compared to other ROAs
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Tar included? Makes sense but never heard of it before.
 
I would like to DOUBLE confirm if water-lining as suggested above is more efficient, with more pleasant effects, then smoking and less wasteful?
No matter the type or format of the product?

I get concerned about the water dripping down your throat and being wasted via oral ROI. How can you prevent this?

Spanks.
 
Yeah, I think I was torching the hell out of it, just started to heat lightly and found that even if I don't see smoke I am still getting a huge exhale of vapor, so that's cool. I think a lot of it is I'm just really impatient and want to get high right away so I jus torch the hell out of it and inhale as much smoke as possibl, but In turn that's screwing me over cuz its a waste of dope and harsher on the lungs. I always burn off the foil before smoking, that's been implanted in my head and I never fail to do so, when I sense some foil fumes laced into my dope toke ill just exhale right away, not worth it. I've heard some real nasty stories in my area to do with foil smokers, I like to think I'm more careful than them. Also, i don't see a point to the water mister idea, like I know what u mean, and I've done that with dilaudid 30mg cuz it kills the nasal lining with the beads, but not with h, I would think just sniffing it is way more effeciant than mixing it into a nasal spray device, sniffing jus dosent do it for me though... Its a longer high but its also kind of dull, the smoking is instant gratification, and its a fun ritual (unfortunately for me). Thanks
 
You're Canada MistaSmokalot, right? D'you get much heroin base over there, AKA No. 3 though think that's more a U.S. thing calling it that? HCl / No. 4 more commonly found U.S. ( base is rare there so I'm told ) won't run on foil I think unless it's been cut with caffeine but not sure what colour you'd expect? In theory should be white shouldn't it, or off-white / greyish maybe? I could well be wrong, asking for my own info hoping someone can clarify as much as yours.

A small flame will give you more control and help you avoid overheating. Keep the tip of the flame only just touching or just below the foil but not quite touching as much as possible. Tilt your foil, 45° or more even if your technique is poor or the gear's really viscous once melted, bringing the tip of the flame in just long enough for the gear to start to run under its own weight, then stroke the tip of the flame in and out as it runs. You're aiming to keep the tip of the flame a little behind the beatle just stroking it along with the beatle more or less falling away from the flame so you're above melting point but below burning. Keeping the flame directly under the beatle with the foil too flat will tend to burn it. If you see the beatle boiling hard round the edges making a sizzling noise and leaving much of a residue you're overheating. It is generally easier though to run a bigger amount: it's easier to burn small amounts. You're aiming to vapourise but you'll always get smoke. Whether that's cuts or what IDK cos in theory it's a vapour you're after but I like to think I was pretty damn skilled at running after years of daily practice and there was always lots of 'smoke'.
 
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You're Canada MistaSmokalot, right? D'you get much heroin base over there, AKA No. 3 though think that's more a U.S. thing calling it that? HCl / No. 4 more commonly found U.S. ( base is rare there so I'm told ) won't run on foil I think unless it's been cut with caffeine but not sure what colour you'd expect? In theory should be white shouldn't it, or off-white / greyish maybe? I could well be wrong, asking for my own info hoping someone can clarify as much as yours.

A small flame will give you more control and help you avoid overheating. Keep the tip of the flame only just touching or just below the foil but not quite touching as much as possible. Tilt your foil, 45° or more even if your technique is poor or the gear's really viscous once melted, bringing the tip of the flame in just long enough for the gear to start to run under its own weight, then stroke the tip of the flame in and out as it runs. You're aiming to keep the tip of the flame a little behind the beatle just stroking it along with the beatle more or less falling away from the flame so you're above melting point but below burning. Keeping the flame directly under the beatle with the foil too flat will tend to burn it. If you see the beatle boiling hard round the edges making a sizzling noise and leaving much of a residue you're overheating. It is generally easier though to run a bigger amount: it's easier to burn small amounts. You're aiming to vapourise but you'll always get smoke. Whether that's cuts or what IDK cos in theory it's a vapour you're after but I like to think I was pretty damn skilled at running after years of daily practice and there was always lots of 'smoke'.
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Talk about a trigger... Lol..
 
first off, dont put a "chunk" on the foil, break it up to powder. If its GOOD junk it should go from powder to a light browish/yellowish oil basically instantly once a lighter is lit under neath... the slower it takes for it to to oil up and start smoking, the less quality ime. Use a pen tube or a straw/bill and enhale that smoke... tho i find snorting it to be much better... smoking is best when u get Tar
 
MistaSmokalot said:
Ive been reading countless threads on and off this board about 'proper' technique of smoking dope on foil...

the way we do it is, break a lil chunk off, put it on foil, light from underneath...this makes the h turn from solid into a dark liquid and then smokes.... Everything Im reading is that the h should never smoke, it should vaporize...but it's next to impossible to do this...it turns into a liquid and then smokes, no chance of any vapor...and if there was vapor, no way Id feel it.

I usually get a light brown solid rock, no clue if its 3 or 4...probably 4. But everyone I know, smokes it like this...is this wrong :?
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nah its not wrong and when you light your gear try making the flame not actually touch the foil (get it as close to it as u can without touching it) and remember to tilt the foil so your h can slide proper. doing it this way there is less smoke that comes off the h and it more vapourizes down the foil ( youll know what i mean when u get the technique 100%,) i used to get about 4 or 5 hoots off of a .1 or so and now i can easily pull off a good 8 or 9 plus have a HUGE trail to go over after for another PHAT hoot usually my trail hoot is bigger than 2 of my normal hoots :p

-dylan
 
Sepher said:
You're Canada MistaSmokalot, right? D'you get much heroin base over there, AKA No. 3 though think that's more a U.S. thing calling it that? HCl / No. 4 more commonly found U.S. ( base is rare there so I'm told ) won't run on foil I think unless it's been cut with caffeine but not sure what colour you'd expect? In theory should be white shouldn't it, or off-white / greyish maybe? I could well be wrong, asking for my own info hoping someone can clarify as much as yours.

A small flame will give you more control and help you avoid overheating. Keep the tip of the flame only just touching or just below the foil but not quite touching as much as possible. Tilt your foil, 45° or more even if your technique is poor or the gear's really viscous once melted, bringing the tip of the flame in just long enough for the gear to start to run under its own weight, then stroke the tip of the flame in and out as it runs. You're aiming to keep the tip of the flame a little behind the beatle just stroking it along with the beatle more or less falling away from the flame so you're above melting point but below burning. Keeping the flame directly under the beatle with the foil too flat will tend to burn it. If you see the beatle boiling hard round the edges making a sizzling noise and leaving much of a residue you're overheating. It is generally easier though to run a bigger amount: it's easier to burn small amounts. You're aiming to vapourise but you'll always get smoke. Whether that's cuts or what IDK cos in theory it's a vapour you're after but I like to think I was pretty damn skilled at running after years of daily practice and there was always lots of 'smoke'.
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sorry didnt read this before posting
 
Don't forget to put a small chunk in the straw or whatever your using to catch/ make some resin... Recycled can be as good as first time around.
 
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Captain.Heroin said:
The most ideal way to vaporize heroin is the same way I vaporize my wax; with a skillet.
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for tar? yes, absolutely. for powder? not seem ideal at all, although smoking powder at all isn't ideal. never tried any other forms, at least that I know the names of. Although, from what I've heard about no. 3 heroin, it would seem ideal to smoke it on a skillet, but I've never tried smoking no. 3 on a skillet. i've only smoked tar and powder on a skillet.
 
By the time you get good at doing it you will either have a full blown habit or the opiate door will be so widely opened that it may take the rest of your life to close it. God I miss smoking heroin. It is a jolly fun thing to do!
 
It's a skill alright. Takes a while to get it down pat, minimise the waste to get the most from it. Easy once you've got the hang of it and yeah, I used to enjoy the ritual of it too.
 
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