Opioids smoking codeine

[chch]

Is it possible and what are the effects? I mean say 100mg freebase codeine. A lot of people say it isn't possible but maybe they are trying to smoke the salt? or maybe trying to just smoke a whole Tylenol 1?

 

[OntarioGuy]

Did you make this base yourself from CWE'd codeine tabs? I really don't know for sure....But given the bad/deadly side effects from other ROA's that have an extremely rapid onset (IV) I wouldn't try it...why not eat the base?

From what I understand,you want the codeine to be converted to morphine and other metabolites in the liver anyways.

 

[sekio]

Smoking or injecting codeine is not recommended because it can cause a powerful histamine release leading to essentially anaphylactic shock. It's still technically possible, just unsafe and not any more effective than eating the same amount of f/b.

 

[chch]

Ok, because I've seen reports of unknown quantities of the salt being smoked and they reported "meh" effects. But I've also seen that there may be codeine specific receptors in the brain and other parts of body. Of course smoking it doesnt necessary make it pass the blood-brain barrier.

I was thinking of trying the new zealand homebake with it, but I want to know if I could just smoke it. I've seen the warnings about IV codeine. But have many people actually tried to smoke it? Would it necessarily be the same histamine response as IVing?

 

[chch]

Btw yeah It could be from CWE. There is another method using acetone that I'll explain since a lot of people have trouble with the CWE.

First if you CWE the acetaminophen/codeine/caffeine tablets, you will find that you need an awful lot of water. Supposedly the aspirin tablets are better in terms of being able to put a little bit of water in a syringe with the powder and just squeeze the codeine water right out. Anyway. I just dont recommend drinking the water from CWE, because you still get a lot of acetominophen and caffeine. You can repeatedly evaporate it till there is little water and that will guarantee very little other crap, but you need to calculate solubilities.

Acetone - you can shake the tablet powder with acetone, enough to dissolve all the acetominophen and caffeine, povidone, etc, it will need to be a lot of acetone, depending on the amount of tablets. Say 500ml depending. You need to find out about solubilities. Codeine salt will not dissolve (almost none), so the precipitate will be just codeine salt. But make sure you weigh it to make sure there isn't more precipitate than there can be codeine. Then you've obviously got other stuff.

Back to CWE: There is also a method where you can evaporate CWE water to dry powder, then wash with methylene chloride to remove the caffeine, which it dissolves. That's what is used to decaffeinate coffee (or trichloroethylene but they are very similar solvents).

I think that doing a CWE to remove most acetominophen first, then drying and washing the resulting powder with acetone will give the best results. You'll get just codeine. Still better weigh it to be sure. Be sure you don't ingest any acetone - better be completely evaporated.

I can make it clearer if anyone cares.

 

[Venrak]

I really wouldn't risk it. There have been cases of pulmonary edema due to extreme histamine release as sekio mentioned.

 

[neversickanymore]

NO.. it is dangerous and doesn't do shit to make it worth it.

 

[Tii]

Ive smoked it once before it doesnt do anything and tastes VERY strange. It was also harsh on the lungs

 

[RobotRipping]

i've certainly thought about, specially when i had pure codeine powder laying around but that risk of extreme histamine release is just too large. Pure codeine orally, isn't that bad though. I could sure go for some right now and i prefer strong opiates.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Harm reduction

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