Smoke Plus herbal incense

[Audio Terrorist]

I got hold of some Smoke plus no sourcing. Here's what the company say about the product:

"Our products contain a mixture of specifically targeted, all organic alkaloids that are isolated and concentrated to achieve a very special relaxing effect. All organic compounds used are from plants etc with a long history of use such as, Erythrina, Aesculus, Cinnamomum and Verbascum genuses etc. Typical plant extractions capture all of the plants alkaloids, which can produce some problems in sensitive people when they are concentrated to make any effect stronger.

The huge difference between ours and other products, is that when others make a product they make a total alkaloid extract and concentrate it to get the maximum possible effect. The problem is that Mother Nature has made most plants with hundreds of alkaloids (we've never measured the total of any plant that I have ever heard) and if you concentrate them all equally, you do get a stronger mix, but you get just as big an increase of bad/toxic/unknown alkaloids as you do the one(s) that give the pleasant effect you're looking for.

We target a single or very small group that we know is active and has not shown any proven adverse side effects, and we extract and purify it to end up with just the one we want. Aesculus (Horsechestnut) is a great example, as if you read around you'll see some "experts" telling you that it can produce allergic reactions and is not to be trusted, but German doctors and paramedics have been using it for hundreds of years and most there still keep it in their bags when they attend sporting events, so I would believe the Germans with hundreds of years experience rather than an “expert” who is trying to discredit it, perhaps on behalf of a competitor or drug company etc. The alkaloid Esculin in a typical Horse chestnut extraction has been suggested as the cause of those very few adverse reactions so we remove it, not for the experts but for our customers.

That's how we can make a product that is so strong and without any common side effects, that people assume it has to be either synthetic or bad for you, because if they or others were to make something with as strong an effect it feels “dirty” or chemical and you just know you’re going to regret it the following day!

I found the smoke to be very harsh. I found it impossible not to cough and got a strong wave of nausea which passed after 30 or so seconds. I've tried it in my bong on in a pipe.

I'm not a very experienced smoker of any product really. I never took up smoking cigarettes, weed has never been a big hit with me and have generally been into drugs that come in tablet/powder form.

I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it although I have smoked a fair bit of weed over the years and a couple of bags of various "Spice" products, a bit of Salvia etc... so I'm not a total smoking noob .

I have never had this sensation previously. The smoke feels smooth on the way down but after a few seconds my lungs feel like a knife is cutting through them. This then makes me cough and feel very nauseous.

From the very little I have smoked of this "Smoke Plus" product, I have had good results. It feels very different to any of the Spice products that I have tried. I have found it to be similar to salvia in the body feeling I get but without the mental distortions. I have had no change of perspective or anything that I would consider psychedelic at the doses I've been able to get in me.

So, to the question and whole point of this post; I am not willing to try and smoke this product any more as the enjoyment I get from it is not worth the harshness from the smoke imo. Although, I do have an amount of this left that cost me a considerable amount of money and don't want to waste. Has anyone had any experience with making a tea out of it? Or just eating it maybe? What kind of dosages have you tried?

I can't seem to find too much info on this product. I don't believe it has the same active chemicals in there as other products (jwh-018 etc...), or not those in isolation anyway, maybe in combination with other chemicals? Does anyone know what is in it that actually gives the effects? I would love to believe what the company say are the only ingredients but as we've seen in the recent past, that is just not possible with certain types of vendor.

Thank you for any responses.

 

[JahRed24x]

I will be having some Smoke Plus (Red) and Smoke Vanilla (Yellow). I heard its the best of the best when it comes to the "herbal smokes." Has anyone else tried it? If so what did you think of it?

 

[mmmCHRISx]

just take small pipe hits and dont hold them in very long. or you could eat them orally.

you could try this, what i call firecrackers. i use these with marijuanna, idk if it works with this "blend" tho

take about what it takes to get you high, and put it between two ritz crackers with peanut butter in the middle(chop up the weed fairly fine)

put in the microwave for 15-20 seconds, let it cool a little and eat!

 

[flacky]

I know that many people were saying that Spice Gold was inactive orally. It would be interesting to find out if the same applies to this blend.

 

[JahRed24x]

lol hell no im not gonna eat these two Smoke blends. I'll have em in the next few days and im going to use it how its supposed to be used, smoked. But has anyone else tried either Smoke Plus or Smoke (Oge), (vanilla)?

Also about that "Esculin" that the statement the OP posted. check this out, its kinda scary.

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/webprojects2001/gerrard/aesculin.html

 

[leeroyjenkins]

hey you guys if you want some high quality give mr-nice-guy a try its seriously the strongest incense blend ive tryed so far and i love it! the smoke is not harsh at all and they just came out with a new blend called panic its supossed to be even stronger! any one tryed it yet? im excited! lol

 

[TheAzo]

A lot of the blends give really nasty smoke. Shop around (maybe try blends your friends smoke?) - the smoke blends tend to be a lot more... what's the word... people have different preferences about what blend hits best and which ones are best, much more so than between different strains of weed (where most people can more or less agree).

Also, the ingredients aren't published for any of them - while most of them are JWH-018 on inert herbs, there are well over a dozen cannabinoids from two broad chemical classes for blend makers to choose from, and some of them have even been dumping other research chemicals into their blends. So, blends will feel different from eachother, and some of them will be _very_ different. I know of at least 2 people putting 5-MeO-DALT into blends.

I just make my own for when i want to smoke a blend instead of real weed - with CP-55,940 instead of JWH-xxx, on mullian, damania, raspberry leaf and lavender. Easy to smoke, and a wonderful clean high reminiscent of a good sativa strain, rather than the messy anxious high of the indole cannabinoids.

 

[fryingsquirrel]

Why the fuck do people keep buying these smoking blends? You can buy JWH-whatever cheap enough to make a quarter pound of them for about what an eighth of an ounce of the pre=made shit costs.

 

[stony_krony]

Found a new favorite

I was able to try some good ones by reading these posts and wanted to share some info about one I tried today. A buddy came over for the Wisconsin vs. Michigan game and brought something called Green God, that he had found on ebay I think it was. Anyways this was def in my top 3. Had an unusually smooth smoke and there were no overpowering tastes. Just really neutral which I liked a lot. Effects lasted a solid 2.5 hours, we missed most of the game lol.