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Slowly losing the magic of MDMA.... will Sass be a better option?

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Sublime947

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Hi.

ive been rolling since oct 2011 and since than, i have calculated that i have consumed 19 doses of mdma, in the form of mints or molly.

i never went over 2 doses, but i have really been abusing it this summer which i kind of regret. the biggest regret was rolling 2 days in a row last July.

Theres a big festival im looking forward to next week and i have an unknown substance capsule of supposedly MDA (sass). its a brown sugar crystally looking powder. it looks pretty legit, and the source was rolling face from it for like 8 hours lol.

my question is would it be wise to consume this at a festival? even though ive been kind of abusing mdma?

the festival will be one of the best shows i will go to, and its going to be kind of hard to abstain from it. which is why i was wondering if MDA doesnt have much of a crosstolerance to MDMA, so i could still have a good roll hopefully?

The last time i rolled was 3 weeks ago btw.
 
As far as I know, not only is real sassafras is incredibly uncommon, but the effects of real sassafras are completely different from MDMA and MDA. MDA, however, is similar to MDMA, but more visual and psychedelic, and less love dovey. I don't know for sure, but I would imagine there would be a cross tolerance unfortunately...
 
Best way (as horrible as it sounds) is to take a LONG break in order to get the magic back. Some people cannot get it back, especially if they have used too much. I used weekly for a month or so. Having to use more each time with the side effects getting worse and worse. The effects were lessened every time. A 4 month break and then bang the magic was back.
 
^ahh i know that taking a break is the most optimal option. its so hard to take breaks >.> especially when you have good events in your city all the time.

however, a huge festival is coming my way and i really want to dose for it, which is why i was thinking that if i do taking the sass would be the best option for an enjoyable time instead of some very mild roll.

after this i will be taking a break.
 
Ooohh okay, that makes more sense. :) I'm not sure if we call MDA that here in Canada, or maybe we do and I just missed something haha. I know what real sassafras is though, so I was confused at first when he said they were one in the same because from what I've read (which isn't much) real sassafras has really different effects than MDMA does.

Sublime, I did a bit of research and have a better answer to your question now. MDMA and MDA do have a cross tolerance in some of their effects, the MDMA like effects that MDA has, (MDMA is a lot more lovey dovey without many psychedelic or visual effects and MDA is a lot less lovey dovey and far more psychedelic and visual). So, you probably would be tolerant to any of the MDMA like effects MDA would normally givew you, but since MDA has a bit of a broader spectrum of effects and is a lot more psychedelic, you would probably not have a tolerance to the psychedelic effects of MDA. The thing is though, I think that by doing MDA you would probably still continue to build a tolerance with MDMA, so I think you would be wise to just take a break... if all you're going to get from the MDA is some psychedelic effects, you'll probably have more fun doing a different psychedelic. Maybe do something else at these events for a while, like LSD or something? MDMA is amazing but you don't want to over use it, not only is it neurotoxic but you don't want to lose the magic and not be able to roll anymore. If all you're going to get from the MDA is some psychedelic effects and a continued tolerance to MDMA, you might as well do another type of psychedelic, take a break from MDxx substances and then when you finally can roll again, it'll be amaaaazing and well worth the wait. Trust me. Take a break, spend your money on something with something else fun for the events for a couple months, then you'll probably be able to roll again... and at that point, I definitely recommend spacing out your rolls, *at least* by a month in between... not only to prevent tolerance but to prevent neurotoxicity.

I feel for ya... tolerance is a bitch. Been there, but when you build a tolerance to something, that's a pretty major sign that you're using way too much of it way too often.
 
Sublime947 said:
^ahh i know that taking a break is the most optimal option. its so hard to take breaks >.> especially when you have good events in your city all the time.

however, a huge festival is coming my way and i really want to dose for it, which is why i was thinking that if i do taking the sass would be the best option for an enjoyable time instead of some very mild roll.

after this i will be taking a break.
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Take long breaks. Try shooting for 3 or 4 months. It's hard as hell, but gets easier. I can't tell you how much I wish I would have followed this advice. You'll be very glad in the long run if you do.
 
roastlamb123 said:
Best way (as horrible as it sounds) is to take a LONG break in order to get the magic back. Some people cannot get it back, especially if they have used too much. I used weekly for a month or so. Having to use more each time with the side effects getting worse and worse. The effects were lessened every time. A 4 month break and then bang the magic was back.
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M Brace said:
Take long breaks. Try shooting for 3 or 4 months. It's hard as hell, but gets easier. I can't tell you how much I wish I would have followed this advice. You'll be very glad in the long run if you do.
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Id do this mate, my magic is starting to diminish now, and i only started doing md this year, so im doing it at a big rave on september the 1st, and then ill be breaking until new years eve,lets hope the magic comes back, for the both of us, just rest up, gotta be done :)
 
MDMA and MDA have a cross-tolerance, honestly would take a break theres no way around it dude. Like the other member said, maybe try physcedelics if you still need something?
 
masterdome said:
You are going to roll at NCMF.
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And what, prey tell, is wrong with that? Nothing, I hope! Got some good x and paper for NCMF but would LOVE LOVE LOVE some MDA. Only had it for the first time recently but god DAMN. Perfect IMO.

To the OP: It's probably just different enough that if it's truly been three weeks since your last roll, and one week until your next, you oughta be good. I def second everyone here though in that, I would take a break for a few months after. Last time I rolled my balls off was a couple months back, and that was my first in a while. Didn't do much though, just had a good time at home with friends, so I'm super pumped to get faced at North Coast and see Pretty Lights close out a badass weekend with a full multimedia production and the sun setting on the Chi skyline behind him. Plus, after shows with EOTO and Gramatik!
 
LuGoJ said:
What on earth are you talking about?
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Umm, not sure where the confusion is coming from, but the OP said it's been three weeks since he last rolled, and asked if MDA and MDMA have enough cross-tolerance to where if he rolls on MDA in one week, whether it would be worth it or not. So, I responded, that the effects of MDA and MDMA are just a little different, and that if it will have been one month since his last time taking any form of MDxx, he ought to be able to get a good, enjoyable roll off of the MDA when he takes it.
 
DigThatFunk said:
Umm, not sure where the confusion is coming from, but the OP said it's been three weeks since he last rolled, and asked if MDA and MDMA have enough cross-tolerance to where if he rolls on MDA in one week, whether it would be worth it or not. So, I responded, that the effects of MDA and MDMA are just a little different, and that if it will have been one month since his last time taking any form of MDxx, he ought to be able to get a good, enjoyable roll off of the MDA when he takes it.
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I completely misunderstood what you were saying. I thought in essence what you were saying was that MDA and MDMA were different enough so you could roll three weeks ago, then this week and then again in 1 week.
 
Haha, alright, that's a little more understandable to wonder WTF I'm talking about. If only it could work like that, oh man...
 
MDMA and MDA work on the same mechanisms the only difference is MDA will agonise the 5-HT2A receptor more than MDMA, and MDA pumps more NA/DA or the ratios are slighlty different. Either way there is a cross tolerance, switching to MDA from MDMA is just going o continue to build your tolerance, same goes for MDEA.

Give it a break for a while man, couple weeks atleast and then maybe try some MDA
 
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