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Opioids Sleep deprived....What should I do??

Jktm said:
It's actually NREM sleep that rests you, particularly Stage III NREM (slow-wave sleep). REM sleep is important for general health and the part of your memory that helps you remember how to do things, but NREM is where you get your rest.
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I stand corrected. It's always good to gain new info.
 
jeng1128 said:
Thanks guys! It gives me hope that people other than me stay awake all night bc of meth. I never thought of seroqil(?sp) & I know the shit knocks me out as Ive taken it before.Trazodone sucks IMO it leaves me with a "hangover" feeling & I get all light headed. I just know serquil makes you gain a ton of weight bc she gained like 100#s on it!! Everytime I took it in the past they gave me that "munchies" feeling.
But yesterday I was really busy(we got new couches & coffee/end tables) & pick them up & put them together so I slept only like anhour &a half & i actually slept....well better than usual.
I dont get why I cant say hes my fiancee bc he sells his rx of kpins when Ive seen ALOT of people say alot worse on this site!! He sells them to one person & I would barley call him a drug dealer!! I thought this site was annomous anyway.
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Almost nothing in this world is anonymous. IP address? Heard of them? The Feds are not gonna kick down the door and nothing will happen from your comment but it is good practice not to admit diverting meds on the Internet.
 
Maybe talk to your doctor about switching you from diazepam to temazepam ?? At least maybe for your PM dose... its a great benzo for sleep and works for anxiety as well
 
chrisalt said:
Almost nothing in this world is anonymous. IP address? Heard of them? The Feds are not gonna kick down the door and nothing will happen from your comment but it is good practice not to admit diverting meds on the Internet.
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Diverting meds?! hah!
 
BlueHues said:
I'm a fellow New Englander, from RI, whatever that's worth....IME, if you're coming off of dope and you take 35mg of methadone, that's enough to hold most people even with large habits....That doesn't mean you get bombed, it just holds you

Tapering off of methadone is different...I agree that a lot of it is psychological, but it's not all in your head...You should do what you're comfortable with. but understand, there's no way to get off scott free...

I found, even when I was on a high dose of methadone, sometimes I would start getting a runny nose and feel kind of achey in the early morning hours 2-6 AM....It's kind of like a false sickness though, because even if I missed my dose, I still wouldn't really get sick that day

Do what you're comfortable with, it's your body and your life and staying on methadone is preferable to relapse...But if you're boyfriend is acting all "holier than thou" because he's on Sub, that's bullshit too....Getting off sub sucks too! It's scary I know, but it's not THAT bad as long as you don't just jump off...
And, IMHO, jumping from methadone to subs, just to do a detox from the subs is more trouble than it's worth..
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just wanted to say that everybody truly is different because i get those "false symptoms" at about 2 or 3 am and i dose at 4am(at 120mgs) and the other day i threw up my dose and i got soooo sick when i finally ran out of doses and had to go that day w\o i thought i was gonna die(and i have been on and off methadone for 15 yrs so i know w/d). i was at the clinic waiting in 15 degree weather at5am for them to open at 530.
 
also just want to say that imo NO ONE should taper, cut or otherwise mess with your benzo dose while trying to do the same with methadone...imo these two things(especially with long acting diazepam) should never be reduced at the same time, when i was forced to do this in jail i had seizures that messed me up pretty good, long term too. with opiates and benzos it is best to do one at a time otherwise you will either hurt yourself or set yourself up to hurt yourself.
 
jambabomba said:
I'm still wondering why are you taking benzos at morning? After all, they are sleep meds and sleeping morning with them and then complaining you can't get sleep at night sounds little odd to me.
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benzos are not only taken for sleep, i expect she takes it for anxiety which for me is very present in the morning.
 
stivsmegg said:
just wanted to say that everybody truly is different because i get those "false symptoms" at about 2 or 3 am and i dose at 4am(at 120mgs) and the other day i threw up my dose and i got soooo sick when i finally ran out of doses and had to go that day w\o i thought i was gonna die(and i have been on and off methadone for 15 yrs so i know w/d). i was at the clinic waiting in 15 degree weather at5am for them to open at 530.
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Sure, everybodys different, but for the majority of people stabilized on 120 mgs, it would take longer than 24 hours to get that sick....some people are on split doses for that reason.
 
BlueHues said:
Sure, everybodys different, but for the majority of people stabilized on 120 mgs, it would take longer than 24 hours to get that sick....some people are on split doses for that reason.
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true, but personally i like to speak of my own experiences cuz thats what i know for sure. my point was just that it is absolutely possible to metabolize your methadone too quickly, they did want to split dose me but i want no part of that myself. i also know many other addicts with the same problem, some split dose, others dont but yes the majority will tell you that they dont get sick for 36 to 48 hrs.
 
stivsmegg said:
benzos are not only taken for sleep, i expect she takes it for anxiety which for me is very present in the morning.
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Yes I know of course there will be anxiety in benzo withdrawal. My point was more that life is about choices; if someone wants to sleep good at night then maybe is willing to suffer some anxiety through a day for that. At least that is what I have done when I have rapidly tapered my benzos. I know what anxiety can be like. When I dropped my benzos too fast I didn't sleep allmost in a week and finally got little psychosis and went to ER.
 
Man i know what your talkijg about. When i went cold turkey off 4mgs a day of clonazepam for a couple years i went fucking crazy for 3 weeks. It felt like a childrens nightmare sometimes.
 
Obviously but he was mentioning klonopin & I'm on meth & klonopin detoxing from both and I meant there are things that deal with both(meth & kpins) while detoxing. Cold turkey is practically impossible, unless in jail lol?
 
bfisher said:
Maybe talk to your doctor about switching you from diazepam to temazepam ?? At least maybe for your PM dose... its a great benzo for sleep and works for anxiety as well
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Wouldn't that be like one asking their doc to switch them from aspirin to morphine? Exaggerating a bit but most GP's seem to be intimidated by strong hypnotics, especially when treating substance addiction in outpatients. Not to mention that temazepam is a DEA magnet while diazepam is way down the list.
 
Meh, and you all cry when i say women are inherently illogical, emotional thinkers. It is about what makes "me feel good". Anything else is an irritation, that is blocking the path to their "happiness". If it "feels" right, then it is. Don't tell me this is not how you all think, it is the way you are wired, it is the way you become great mothers.

So, your husbands biological clock is ticking, he wants a baby so bad, but it is about how "you feel" uncomfortable, this is about you and you wanting to be high. How about you let your husband go find someone normal? Someone who can have a baby for him? Not procrastinate until it "feels" right for you, whenever that time comes, if ever, all the while leading him on.
 
teological said:
Meh, and you all cry when i say women are inherently
illogical, emotional thinkers. It is about what makes "me feel good". Anything else is an irritation, that is blocking the path to their "happiness". If it "feels" right, then it is. Don't tell me this is not how you all think, it is the way you are wired, it is the way you become great mothers.

So, your husbands biological clock is ticking, he wants a baby so bad, but it is about how "you feel" uncomfortable, this is about you and you wanting to be high. How about you let your husband go find someone normal? Someone who can have a baby for him? Not procrastinate until it "feels" right for you, whenever that time comes, if ever, all the while leading him on.
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This apply's to me dead on. When you've been with someone for 4 years(living together) it's soooo diffucult to just say fuckyou if ull never come to terms with my past then how the hell can we possibly be together in the future(mostly thinking this but nevet say it, my middle name is non-confrontational.) I just need more time to fully figure everything out in my head I guess.
 
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