So i've been skin popping heroin (tar) for a few months now, and i thought my body would absorb all the water from my injections but alas, this is not the case. I now have numerous pockets of water underneath my skin that don't seem to be going away. I don't want these bubbles to become infected. What should i do?
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Heroin skin popping heroin and bubbles under skin
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BlueHues
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IV it! You're sticking a needle into yourself anyway! Unless you have no usable veins, there's no excuse to IM that nasty shit! unless you want a lower BA and a higher risk of infection! Otherwise, snoke it or waterline it, but if you wanna play with needles, learn how to find a vein!
*Cue reel of 19 year old methoxetamine users telling you IMing is the way to go!
It's not! Do or do not! there is no try!
*Cue reel of 19 year old methoxetamine users telling you IMing is the way to go!
It's not! Do or do not! there is no try!
Deadhead420
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Skin popping is actually different than IMing. Skin popping means putting the needle just under your skin, not in a muscle. I don't know why you would do that with heroin though... seems like the amount absorbed would be less and the risk of an abscess would be higher. There's very few things that should be injected with this method like the taburcolous test (I know some of guys have gotten this one in jail lol) and I think insulin (not sure about this as I'm not diabetic) but as far as street drugs... no. Street drugs need to be IV'd. IM or Skin popping will leave the impurities and cuts in the injection site and can lead to infection. If your veins are to shot to IV, go with another ROA like smoking if you have tar.
No idea about MXE but some drugs like Ketamine are fine to IM but they have to come from a veil meant for injection. If you get a pharmecutial veil meant for injection and use clean needles and everything, IMing is fine but for heroin it's just asking for problems because that shit isn't sterile.
No idea about MXE but some drugs like Ketamine are fine to IM but they have to come from a veil meant for injection. If you get a pharmecutial veil meant for injection and use clean needles and everything, IMing is fine but for heroin it's just asking for problems because that shit isn't sterile.
Deinonychus
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Jesus fucking Christ no! Don't skin pop ANY street drug, ever, but if there's possibly one thing that would be THE WORST THING to skin pop it's BLACK TAR!
Excuse my caps lock but I cannot emphasize this enough: you will – and possibly already have – irreparably damaged your body!
You say there are 'water' bubbles that have remained for a long time. What color is the skin that covers these 'water' bubbles? Because you may have covered yourself in abscesses! I would suggest.. demand even, that you go to see a doctor ASAP, no kidding, exaggeration, etc. I suggest a general practitioner unless your 'water' bubbles are black or otherwise discolored, in which case the ER might be best, but I hate to recommend the ER on such limited and vague information since there may be many people that will need the ER more urgently than you, and thus an extra patient can delay their care. But then again as I said we need to know your bubbles' color, because it may be that you also need urgent medical care.
So lets have some details, and please for the sake of your health and your life, unless dying from sepsis sounds like something fun to you STOP SHOOTING BLACK FUCKING TAR INTO ANYTHING BUT YOUR VEINS! Even your veins are not good to shoot that garbage into (note that I am a heroin addict as well and IV powder multiple times a day, which is also unhealthy, but tar is WAY more harmful still), but IM or subcutaneous is seriously a bad, potentially fatal thing to do.
So, STOP SKIN-POPPING TAR!
Excuse my caps lock but I cannot emphasize this enough: you will – and possibly already have – irreparably damaged your body!
You say there are 'water' bubbles that have remained for a long time. What color is the skin that covers these 'water' bubbles? Because you may have covered yourself in abscesses! I would suggest.. demand even, that you go to see a doctor ASAP, no kidding, exaggeration, etc. I suggest a general practitioner unless your 'water' bubbles are black or otherwise discolored, in which case the ER might be best, but I hate to recommend the ER on such limited and vague information since there may be many people that will need the ER more urgently than you, and thus an extra patient can delay their care. But then again as I said we need to know your bubbles' color, because it may be that you also need urgent medical care.
So lets have some details, and please for the sake of your health and your life, unless dying from sepsis sounds like something fun to you STOP SHOOTING BLACK FUCKING TAR INTO ANYTHING BUT YOUR VEINS! Even your veins are not good to shoot that garbage into (note that I am a heroin addict as well and IV powder multiple times a day, which is also unhealthy, but tar is WAY more harmful still), but IM or subcutaneous is seriously a bad, potentially fatal thing to do.
So, STOP SKIN-POPPING TAR!
Znegative
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Agree with everyone here, if you're not going to inject your dope into a vein than you should plug it or waterline it because you'll get a similar onset and not risk hideous infections and abscesses. Seriously, skin popping is bad news- I wouldn't even want to do it with heroin that's been filtered through a .25um micron (which you should get if you're going to keep up with this horrible and dangerous ROA).
Deinonychus
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^^ Exactly. I think it's worth asking also not just what the skin over the supposed 'water' bubbles looks like visually, but also how long the bubbles have remained.
I should add the following qualification to be responsible: we're not medically trained (at least most of us, I'm sure there's a few MDs here on BL) and so we cannot definitively diagnose what those bubbles really are, ie potentially abscesses, no matter how much info you give us about how they look and how long they have remained. Even a picture wouldn't permit an actual diagnosis, cause we're just plain not doctors or nurses for the most part.
But with that said, it's no less important for you to give us more info on how the bubbles look, how old they are, how they feel when pressed upon and manipulated, if they're painful, etc., because we can still render some judgement more generally/less specifically than an outright diagnosis. All in all however, the fact that diagnoses cannot be made via the Internet is all the *more* reason to get to a GP straightaway, so that somebody who is indeed qualified and is there with you in person can then make an actual, proper diagnosis.
I add that caveat because being a heroin addict myself I know how readily we junkies rationalize, and so I want to be explicitly clear that while it is a very good idea to give us some more info and be more specific about the bubbles, that is not a substitute for going to a real doctor. Meaning it is not valid to skip going to a doctor out of fear of having to be honest about your behavior with the false rationale that you don't need a real diagnosis because you got information from BL. I know how our minds work, and so I want to (try) to preempt that sort of bullshit in addition to stressing how serious your predicament may be and how completely reckless and in all seriousness potentially deadly any continued skin-popping of heroin, but especially tar, will be.
EDIT: I also want to make clear that I am being this harsh and brutally honest out of honest fear for your life and wellbeing, not to shame you. I just think that it is not possible to be too strenuous when trying to get across how bad subcutaneously shooting tar is. So please, please don't be offended or decide not to respond or seek medical examination because you feel like we are being mean. It's love for our fellow men and women/human beings, not meanness.
I should add the following qualification to be responsible: we're not medically trained (at least most of us, I'm sure there's a few MDs here on BL) and so we cannot definitively diagnose what those bubbles really are, ie potentially abscesses, no matter how much info you give us about how they look and how long they have remained. Even a picture wouldn't permit an actual diagnosis, cause we're just plain not doctors or nurses for the most part.
But with that said, it's no less important for you to give us more info on how the bubbles look, how old they are, how they feel when pressed upon and manipulated, if they're painful, etc., because we can still render some judgement more generally/less specifically than an outright diagnosis. All in all however, the fact that diagnoses cannot be made via the Internet is all the *more* reason to get to a GP straightaway, so that somebody who is indeed qualified and is there with you in person can then make an actual, proper diagnosis.
I add that caveat because being a heroin addict myself I know how readily we junkies rationalize, and so I want to be explicitly clear that while it is a very good idea to give us some more info and be more specific about the bubbles, that is not a substitute for going to a real doctor. Meaning it is not valid to skip going to a doctor out of fear of having to be honest about your behavior with the false rationale that you don't need a real diagnosis because you got information from BL. I know how our minds work, and so I want to (try) to preempt that sort of bullshit in addition to stressing how serious your predicament may be and how completely reckless and in all seriousness potentially deadly any continued skin-popping of heroin, but especially tar, will be.
EDIT: I also want to make clear that I am being this harsh and brutally honest out of honest fear for your life and wellbeing, not to shame you. I just think that it is not possible to be too strenuous when trying to get across how bad subcutaneously shooting tar is. So please, please don't be offended or decide not to respond or seek medical examination because you feel like we are being mean. It's love for our fellow men and women/human beings, not meanness.
InHerOwnWrite
Bluelighter
Wow, doesn't it hurt when you intentionally skin pop? I can't imagine doing this. But anyway, do as everyone else on here suggested- you may need medical treatment, but even if you don't, you need to stop using this method.
As has already been said skin popping heroin is not a good idea at all. Too easy to get an infection which leads to abcesses.
If any of these lumps under yr skin start to feel warm or hot get them looked at straight away.
My friend had an abcess on his arm once and so after a week or so he went to the hospital and they injected an anasthetic into the lump which hurt like hell he said.
They then cut open the abcess and out came loads of really foul smelling pus.
Once all the pus had been cleaned out he had a huge hole in his arm, it was amazing how deep it was. The nurse packed the hole with wadding and my mate had to go and get it changed at the hospital everyday for about a week or so.
Not a fun time for him I can assure you.
If any of these lumps under yr skin start to feel warm or hot get them looked at straight away.
My friend had an abcess on his arm once and so after a week or so he went to the hospital and they injected an anasthetic into the lump which hurt like hell he said.
They then cut open the abcess and out came loads of really foul smelling pus.
Once all the pus had been cleaned out he had a huge hole in his arm, it was amazing how deep it was. The nurse packed the hole with wadding and my mate had to go and get it changed at the hospital everyday for about a week or so.
Not a fun time for him I can assure you.
I assure you those aren't water bubbles sir. Your best best for (besides seeing a doctor) is to run them under warm water for 10 mins at a time and rub them very gently. Depending on how old they are you might not even want to rub them as they can be infected abscesses. Hopefully for you, they are sterile and will go away.
If any of them are more than a couple weeks old go see a doc. IV it if you need needles. Using correct IV tech you can do this relatively safely and your veins can last a long time.
If any of them are more than a couple weeks old go see a doc. IV it if you need needles. Using correct IV tech you can do this relatively safely and your veins can last a long time.
BlueHues
Bluelighter
^So if skin popping is making a bubble under your skin like a TB test, why in god's name would anyone do that?! It's much more painful than just actually shooting the drugs!..And IMing is pretty much like "intentionally missing".......which I guess I understand for some drugs.....although not really!!
Yeah, even shooting tar is iffy as fuck! It's hard to register, it coagulates and solidifies in the rig.....Have it looked at....A lot of shit does eventually go away on it's own, but in this case I'd have it looked at to make sure!
Yeah, even shooting tar is iffy as fuck! It's hard to register, it coagulates and solidifies in the rig.....Have it looked at....A lot of shit does eventually go away on it's own, but in this case I'd have it looked at to make sure!
^the TB test is used with a sterile solution and sterile syringes. the solution is specifically made for subcutaneous injections
subcutaneous injections have a high chance to form abscesses when using unsterile solution (basically anything that isnt already in sterile sloution will have bacteria). losing an arm is not fun!!
get a micron filter or IV it with cotton. even though cotton isnt the best filter, IVing tar with cotton is safer than skin popping!
subcutaneous injections have a high chance to form abscesses when using unsterile solution (basically anything that isnt already in sterile sloution will have bacteria). losing an arm is not fun!!
get a micron filter or IV it with cotton. even though cotton isnt the best filter, IVing tar with cotton is safer than skin popping!
I live in Dallas, Tx and for a while I was living with an older black couple and one of their's brother. One of the guys, mid 50's, would skin pop all the time. He would try for an hour trying to hit a vein but when he couldn't find one he'd give up and skin pop. Another chick that came over there routinely skin popped as well. And of course, living in Dallas, all we get is black tar. The one older guy had bumps all over his legs and arms. Nasty shit man. Don't do it. Find another way to do your tar bro. That shit is nasty. I still IV it but fuck skin popping it.
thanks guys for all your responses... Sorry i havent responded in so long... I'm definately going to see my GP tomorrow. Its going to be weird all the sudden going there and saying, "oh yeah i'm a heroin addict and this is what i've been doing:". But one has to keep his priorities in order. I'm pretty scared for my life TBH, but the only reason i kept skin-popping was because my body never shown any signs like it was telling me to stop. Now that i'm not high I agree that Black Tar shouldn't be injected its just too dirty. Maybe if i get some cleaner dope and some micron filters...
As for the water bubbles under my skin: you can't actually see them, but when i pinch the skin i can feel little pockets of something that feels like its 'popping'. So i assumed its water that never absorbed. My skin isn't discolored except for 1 spot thats a little yellow. There is no pain, except for maybe a little soreness here and there.
You guys think there's a good chance that my body has avoided infection? I used to skin pop things in the past with no problem, but just not on this kind of scale. I estimate this time around i skin popped maybe 40-60 hits of tar. Maybe its time to get on suboxone?
As for the water bubbles under my skin: you can't actually see them, but when i pinch the skin i can feel little pockets of something that feels like its 'popping'. So i assumed its water that never absorbed. My skin isn't discolored except for 1 spot thats a little yellow. There is no pain, except for maybe a little soreness here and there.
You guys think there's a good chance that my body has avoided infection? I used to skin pop things in the past with no problem, but just not on this kind of scale. I estimate this time around i skin popped maybe 40-60 hits of tar. Maybe its time to get on suboxone?
marione
Bluelighter
Luckiest hypotesys is that they're sterile abscess if they're not getting worse for a long period, to be sure you have to see a doc anyway and surgically remove those bubbles to avoid problems, that's up to you.
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
Did I miss something? Why were you skin popping your dope to begin with? Who told you that was a good idea?
tentram
Ex-Bluelighter
i knew i didnt want to open this thread on so many levels :'(
If you get pure tar that's not really true
Shitty powder is just as risky as shitty tar, good tar as good powder
But as has been said, if you're gonna use a needle, use it right
P.s. Jesus Christ I cannot imagine how IM or skin popping dope would feel. Back in the day if I missed the vein with even a microscopic drop out of the needle it would have me tearing up in pain practically