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Matt1000

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Can anyone suggest which drugs are similar to MDMA which might perhaps work on me?

From what I can tell MDMA does the same thing to me as others. Up to a point. The wave of bliss comes on after about 35 minutes. Everything is beautiful.

That's where it departs from others' experiences. It lasts between 10 and 60 seconds. Then it's gone. It won't come back. It's downhill from that point. I've tried many, many times. It isn't the dose, it isn't the batch. It just doesn't work on me. My body says no and clears the drug very quickly.

With coke having some more will make the effect stronger and I can repeat it, so there's more "bliss" to be had that evening albeit coke has a comedown and MDMA has no comedown for me beyond perhaps feeling more tired the next day. There's nothing much psychological with MDMA. I don't feel miserable the next day. I have plenty of serotonin left.

Am I right in thinking that coke and weed trigger dopamine releases, which is why they work, but MDMA does not and cannot?

Obviously as a clubber I'm a bit bitter about that but it is what it is. It's an experience I will never have.

Is there anything similar that might work?
 
Are you 100% sure what you've taken is quality and tested MDMA each time? While it's possible that you have a unique biology, it seems like a huge anomaly.

All those substances.....coke, weed, MDMA, effect dopamine in some form. MDMA has a much stronger affinity for serotonin than the others, but it also impacts dopamine. Really any substance that people take for any type of "buzz" has a dopaminergic effect. Coffee, nicotine, etc.

As far as other options, some people really like 2CB in club settings. You could also try lower dose mushrooms or LSD if you are comfortable and have some experience with those. Others will have more insight on various RC's that I am not familiar with.
 
As @F.U.B.A.R. notes, 6-APB appears to be superior to 5-APB.

para methyl aminorex is a selective serotonin releaser.

meta methyl aminorex is primarily a dopamine and norepinephrine releaser.

2:1 ratio is just like OG Doves.
 
5-MAPB (more MDMA-like) or 6-APB (more MDA-like). Both are still available in 'Merica and Europe. I rolled on some 5-MAPB for the first time Saturday and enjoyed it. It feels like it's lacking a little something, but the extended duration made up for it. I'd argue it's better than MDMA.

Heck, maybe try MDA? That stuff would have me floored for hours, but I always felt like garbage the next day.
 
4DQSAR said:
As @F.U.B.A.R. notes, 6-APB appears to be superior to 5-APB.

para methyl aminorex is a selective serotonin releaser.

meta methyl aminorex is primarily a dopamine and norepinephrine releaser.

2:1 ratio is just like OG Doves.
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Everyone always raves about the OG Doves. What was in these exactly? A 2:1 ratio of MDMA:MDA? I wasn't even conceived when they were floating around.
 
crazyotter87 said:
Everyone always raves about the OG Doves. What was in these exactly? A 2:1 ratio of MDMA:MDA? I wasn't even conceived when they were floating around.
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Doves were simply the first BRANDED MDMA tablets. Each was pretty much exactly 125mg of MDMA. The prrice? £20 each.

It's the para/meta aminorex ratio that is 2:1. The mix is at least as good as MDMA. In fact, it ALMOST got released. We figured 'Empathy' would be a good name. But costs were too high compared to 6-APB and that was Benzo Fury, hugely popular and why compete? So we just made 6-APB ourselves. Our first generic.
 
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4DQSAR said:
As @F.U.B.A.R. notes, 6-APB appears to be superior to 5-APB.

para methyl aminorex is a selective serotonin releaser.

meta methyl aminorex is primarily a dopamine and norepinephrine releaser.

2:1 ratio is just like OG Doves.
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I'm no chemist, so I don't understand this. I thought that 6-apb is a benzofuran (whatever that means).

Are you saying that 6-apb is related to methylaminorex? I thought it was an analogue of MDA (methylenedioxyamphetamine)?

Confused.com :?
 
4DQSAR said:
Doves were simply the first BRANDED MDMA tablets. Each was pretty much exactly 125mg of MDMA. The prrice? £20 each.

It's the para/meta aminorex ratio that is 2:1. The mix is at least as good as MDMA. In fact, it ALMOST got released. We figured 'Empathy' would be a good name. But costs were too high compared to 6-APB and that was Benzo Fury, hugely popular and why compete? So we just made 6-APB ourselves. Our first generic.
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I regret not jumping on benzo fury when it was available in the UK, or 6-apb rather. I remember seeing all the listings for it as the cathinone ban loomed but back then nobody knew what was actually in it and the word "benzo" being used in promotion led me to believe it wouldn't be my cup of tea.

Be a gentleman and make me some benzo fury 😅
 
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Are you saying that 6-apb is related to methylaminorex?
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No, sorry if my post lacked clarity.

Both have benzofuran aromatic systems which is why the blanket ban on all ring-substituted PEAS doesn't cover them.

The only difference is where the O is.

It's less selective at the 6 position so more active. Of the series, 6-APB is the most active and most akin to Ye Olde Dovee.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
I've heard people say the same thing, but I've never had the pleasure of 5-apb. In what way do you prefer it?
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I feel like it is a heavier deeper roll. Like me on the ground writhing in pleasure. 6-APB I was obviously still rolling, but I felt it was lighter, and lasted longer, which is not always what I want.

I go back and forth between preferring MDA or MDMA every other year or so. I probably* prefer MDA effects, but I really like the duration of MDMA.. At least at this point in my life.

:D
 
Didgital said:
I feel like it is a heavier deeper roll. Like me on the ground writhing in pleasure. 6-APB I was obviously still rolling, but I felt it was lighter, and lasted longer, which is not always what I want.

I go back and forth between preferring MDA or MDMA every other year or so. I probably* prefer MDA effects, but I really like the duration of MDMA.. At least at this point in my life.

:D
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More PMA-like, I assume. After all, it overlays PMA perfectly.
 
4DQSAR said:
More PMA-like, I assume. After all, it overlays PMA perfectly.
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Thats quite the assumption. Using that rationale, I could say DOET is 2C-D like.

Personally, I wouldnt know as Ive never knowingly taken any PMxx. But from what little info there is out there, PMA doesnt share too* much overlap effectswise with even MDMA or MDA. It sounds more stinulating and sweaty, which i did not find to the case w 5-APB. While it was def very SERT i found it very relaxing and euphoric and a bit psychedelic (like MDA). I probably spent most of that experience on the couch in bliss. I do remember having sweaty hands but I also noticed that with 5-MAPB and MDMA etc.
 
Didgital said:
Thats quite the assumption. Using that rationale, I could say DOET is 2C-D like.
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Well, a single experience is VERY weak evidence but to me at least, the two were more similar just as the 6 homologue felt closer to MDMA.

So an informed guess it all it is.

Actually, 3-methoxy-4-methyl amphetamine was less potent, but certainly within that spectrum.
 
4DQSAR said:
Actually, 3-methoxy-4-methyl amphetamine was less potent, but certainly within that spectrum.
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Do you have a TR for that? Just curious.

I've been looking for a while, there is someone who made an amphetamine from eugenol and wrote about it but i havent found it since.
 
There's a chance that empathogens just aren't your thing OP, I'm somebody who can body devastating quantities of most things but if I push specifically MDMA (but not 5-MAPB, 6-APB or MDA) too far it will absolutely induce suicidal behavior. I can't get meth to do it, MDA, meth alongside MDA, ~5 sheets of acid at once, nothing does this the way MDMA does. Molly has a certain bite to it that other drugs lack, and the image of MDMA as being so kind and sweet and euphoric is true for most, but certainly not for all.
 
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