Silly doses based on come up time

[Jinux]

Not really sure where to put this thread but I only really frequent here and TR so I wondered if here might be better as TR isn't really for discussion type threads.

I'm just wondering what the deal is with people getting a new chem in and doing stupid doses throughout the night because they didn't get the desired effect first time round. I read all too often stupid shit like this:

Did XXXmg and waited an hour. Didn't feel a thing so I racked up a line and snorted it. Over the course of the night I did {INSERT STUPID DOSE HERE - Usually 4-5x the normal dose}

WTF guys? If you don't get the desired effect there's only a few reasons for that. Not taking enough is almost never one of them unless your scales are way off or you've been reading dodgy info (Or you're actually being sensible and titrating). None of those reasons means you should go on to binge all night though!!

 

[Shifty38]

This needed saying. And just to add in my two pence. How frequently do you read a trip report with someone berating the effects of a new chemical only to read at the end of the report, or when prompted by another poster - 'oh yeah, I had been on a 17 week binge which included almost every Class-A drug under the sun.' No wonder you had a shit time.

Treat these chems with respect. And not just for your own health, for everyone. If we play it smart they'll be round for a little while longer.

 

[psood0nym]

It's human nature to want to play the most with a toy when it's new. They get excited about getting high, and want to be gratified as soon as possible. When their expectations aren't met by the first dose fast enough, they try to meet them. A lot of these people are just discovering the quasi-legal scene because it has more dumb pleasure drugs that foster impulsive use than ever. So we're getting a lot of ignorant and young regular drug users playing with fire now expecting it to work just like what they're used to. It certainly is stupid, and we should keep telling people it's stupid, but I don't see it changing much soon. It's too deeply wired in many people's behavior, at least until they themselves get burned, and sometimes not even then because it's easier on the ego to blame a drug than oneself. Also, with more black market users using quasi-legals now there's probably more chronic users of street drugs that have cross tolerances with quasi-legals of the same drug class (e.g. K-tards with MXE/ecstasy meth or mephedrone pigs with 6-APB, etc).

 

[Shifty38]

^ Not much to add to that. All I'll say is I love trying to be as careful as I can with drugs. I'm a drugs nerd and I love it.

 

[Jinux]

It just makes me sad man

 

[garrygofast]

Thats why sites like these exist. It is used for a number of reasons.. harm reduction, education, great support and most of the time a well minded community within, always looking to inform and guide the person who is seeking help/advice etc.. I'm a meth user (have been for 20 yrs.. not proud)- But I found this site, through a willingness to learn about shards or something at the time..

The information/help/support/guidence/prior knowledge etc is there.. you just have to be receptive to it. If I remember rightly, during a break from meth(albeit shortlived) I did weeeks and weeks of reasearch on bath salts (a little known entity at the time) before I contemplated trying them. Some young people these days lack the forsight to seek out knowledge, whether its a generational thing or their too cool 4 school.. I dunno.. maybe I was like that when i was younger.. bulletproof etc.. But its everybodies responsibility, If they wish to try these things.. ffs, get some info 1st, at least on pos,neg side effects..Yes i read about the need to constantly redose with MDVP, thats why I took measures to curb my inner fiend.. especially with an unknown substance.

To cut this ramble off.. the type of behavior your describing, is part of the weird drug culture, we sometimes unwittingly immerse ourselves in..that or sheer ignorance/ stupidity.. "the last 5 pills i dropped have done nothing, I better have another.. just in case 6 is what it takes! Education is our friend..