Stimulants Signs of meth od?

[cletusSamboy]

A while back I smoked throughout the day about 80mg of shard starting at about 10am. After the last 20mg at around 8pm I began to experience the following symptoms

Very dizzy standing up
Brain fog. Unable to think at a regular pace or make sense of things as quickly as normal
Feeling I was forgetting where I was and what I was doing from hyperfocusing on inner dialogue
Occasional thought derailment
Very frequent farting
Sense of dread and uneasiness in bed at night. Felt mentally off like I'm about to go into psychosis
Experienced closed and open eye visuals at night. Full 3d holographic demonic creatures leering at me from the ceiling.
Intensified emotions. I guess this was the serotonegic effect kicking in.
Got up for work and went to turn on the light and almost fell over sideways unable to walk straight.
Body felt weak and hands were shaking uncontrollably.
At work I immediately started tripping out. Felt like I wasn't at work and I was confused to the point I was unable to remember properly how to carry out my duties and how to operate tools.
Mind was twisting what people were saying and doing making them appear threatening and menacing causing paranoia.
Heard music playing when people were just talking from far away.
Stomach went into a tight knot and heart started racing. Turned into a panic attack but managed to calm down and get a grip by remembering I took meth and overdone it.

What signs are there that medical attention is needed when you take too much meth? What can I do at home when I've over done it? Orange juice seems to help reduce effects as does benzos.

 

[negrogesic]

Highly elevated blood pressure, fever, disorientation/agitation, large pupils and etc would be some indicators of meth overdose.

But 80mg of meth is very unlikely to cause this, at least in an adult (though it might result in an overdose for a child or infant).

 

[plumbus-nine]

Maybe your meth was laced with fentanyl? Imagine this could bring you brain fog and disorientation if you don't expect an opioid in the mix.

But I imagine based on the doses I used that 80mg would indeed be an acute overdose for me. I'm an adult, 80kg and very sensitive to stims.

 

[cletusSamboy]

Highly elevated blood pressure, fever, disorientation/agitation, large pupils and etc would be some indicators of meth overdose.

But 80mg of meth is very unlikely to cause this, at least in an adult (though it might result in an overdose for a child or infant).

I have very little tolerance so 80mg was overkill

 

[cletusSamboy]

Maybe your meth was laced with fentanyl? Imagine this could bring you brain fog and disorientation if you don't expect an opioid in the mix.

But I imagine based on the doses I used that 80mg would indeed be an acute overdose for me. I'm an adult, 80kg and very sensitive to stims.

I've had fent laced meth numerous times and the fent wears off pretty quickly with it's short half life and brings on a feeling of drowsiness that wasn't present in this case. Tests on it were negative for fent as well. I had very low tolerance and usually max out at 30mg as no positive gains are made going further but was bored that day and the redosing wasn't increasing any noticeable mental or body load until hours later.

 

[chicken hoagie]

Hey folks, you all forget to realize one main thing here...


This is methamphetamine. It is magnitudes more potent than amphetamine (adderall and etc.). A 5mg dose of meth is equal to a 30mg dose of adderall. The maximum FDA allowed daily dose of adderall is 60mg daily. If you used 80mg of meth, you can very well say that you did roughly the same as 400mg of adderall..albeit, meth does not affect the cardiovascular system as much as adderall does, smoking even 80mg in a day is enough to slightly overamp, end up with excess dopamine in the brain, and dive into a psychosis. These are all symptoms of meth induced psychosis.


The only other scenario would be that your supply is actually cathinone bath salts instead of meth. In my hometown there was a few individuals flooding the area with cathinones, selling it as meth because they were getting it in bulk online very easily. This is unlikely though. Chances are, given your diet that day(or even the previous day), coupled with a psychotic break due to excess dopamine, you just smoked some really strong shit and underestimated the buildup of the smoke you were inhaling.

 

[chicken hoagie]

I can speak from my own habit that i cannot do doses over 100mg without copius amounts of benzos and/or opioids.

 

[G_Chem]

Hey folks, you all forget to realize one main thing here...


This is methamphetamine. It is magnitudes more potent than amphetamine (adderall and etc.). A 5mg dose of meth is equal to a 30mg dose of adderall. The maximum FDA allowed daily dose of adderall is 60mg daily. If you used 80mg of meth, you can very well say that you did roughly the same as 400mg of adderall..albeit, meth does not affect the cardiovascular system as much as adderall does, smoking even 80mg in a day is enough to slightly overamp, end up with excess dopamine in the brain, and dive into a psychosis. These are all symptoms of meth induced psychosis.


The only other scenario would be that your supply is actually cathinone bath salts instead of meth. In my hometown there was a few individuals flooding the area with cathinones, selling it as meth because they were getting it in bulk online very easily. This is unlikely though. Chances are, given your diet that day(or even the previous day), coupled with a psychotic break due to excess dopamine, you just smoked some really strong shit and underestimated the buildup of the smoke you were inhaling.

Methamphetamine is said to be roughly 2x the potency. 5mg = 30 of amp would be nice but that’s not my experience.

-GC

 

[chicken hoagie]

Methamphetamine is said to be roughly 2x the potency. 5mg = 30 of amp would be nice but that’s not my experience.

-GC

I forgot where i found my information on potency at, but if you ask me personally, i would tend to definitely believe that meth is indeed at least 5-6x more potent than amphetamine. You also have to take into account the rather inactive isomer that takes up a big chunk of the weight of typical amphetamine pills, but even pure d-amp i would say can't come even half as close to meth..I suppose it just depends where you get your source of info and subjective results certainly ensue.

 

[mauve]

There's the classic overdose, but also overstimulation, overamping.

From my experience having a overdose you start overdosing before any stimulation from the drug kicks in suddenly your vision goes all bright and you loose consciousness, when I woke up I couldn't understand what the Dr or nurse we're saying to me I could hear and see them but couldn't understand a word when they we're trying to communicate for several minutes and couldn't move my mouth to reply.

I was in hospital for a good 5 days while they stabilised me particularly cardiovascular system nothing permanent luckily. To this day I'm certain it caused some minor brain damage as ever since I've not been able to just flow in conversations always having to pause and say oh what's that word.

Overstimulation / overamping is when you took too much just not enough to overdose and it feels horrible like chest pain, cold to touch, whole body trembling, tachycardia. Tooo much dopamine not a nice state to be in.

 

[thegreatwizard]

A while back I smoked throughout the day about 80mg of shard starting at about 10am. After the last 20mg at around 8pm I began to experience the following symptoms

Very dizzy standing up
Brain fog. Unable to think at a regular pace or make sense of things as quickly as normal
Feeling I was forgetting where I was and what I was doing from hyperfocusing on inner dialogue
Occasional thought derailment
Very frequent farting
Sense of dread and uneasiness in bed at night. Felt mentally off like I'm about to go into psychosis
Experienced closed and open eye visuals at night. Full 3d holographic demonic creatures leering at me from the ceiling.
Intensified emotions. I guess this was the serotonegic effect kicking in.
Got up for work and went to turn on the light and almost fell over sideways unable to walk straight.
Body felt weak and hands were shaking uncontrollably.
At work I immediately started tripping out. Felt like I wasn't at work and I was confused to the point I was unable to remember properly how to carry out my duties and how to operate tools.
Mind was twisting what people were saying and doing making them appear threatening and menacing causing paranoia.
Heard music playing when people were just talking from far away.
Stomach went into a tight knot and heart started racing. Turned into a panic attack but managed to calm down and get a grip by remembering I took meth and overdone it.

What signs are there that medical attention is needed when you take too much meth? What can I do at home when I've over done it? Orange juice seems to help reduce effects as does benzos.

Hello, I can't seem to find, the button to start a new thread, but yesterday I experience a similar situation, I used to be a heavy IV user but had stopped for about 7 months, yesterday I IVed around .1 and got pretty good effects, snorted another .1 then found myself caught in a bit of a porn rabbit hole, I sweat so much I soaked 3 pillows and the bed, after 2 hours I then stopped sweating so much and began to feel strange tingling at various parts of my body and finally got myself to stop chasing the finish (sorry if tmi) when I got up I was very dizzy and felt weak, my hearing started to go away for a second and my vision blurred, I figured I was severely dehydrated and drink water. But my heart was still pounding wildely, I was anxious and I was getting very bloated. Do you think this was just from dehydration, or should I just avoid doing IV again as it my cause my BP to go up too much?

 

[cletusSamboy]

Hello, I can't seem to find, the button to start a new thread, but yesterday I experience a similar situation, I used to be a heavy IV user but had stopped for about 7 months, yesterday I IVed around .1 and got pretty good effects, snorted another .1 then found myself caught in a bit of a porn rabbit hole, I sweat so much I soaked 3 pillows and the bed, after 2 hours I then stopped sweating so much and began to feel strange tingling at various parts of my body and finally got myself to stop chasing the finish (sorry if tmi) when I got up I was very dizzy and felt weak, my hearing started to go away for a second and my vision blurred, I figured I was severely dehydrated and drink water. But my heart was still pounding wildely, I was anxious and I was getting very bloated. Do you think this was just from dehydration, or should I just avoid doing IV again as it my cause my BP to go up too much?

Don't know for sure maybe a combo of both.

 

[jyates613]

I forgot where i found my information on potency at, but if you ask me personally, i would tend to definitely believe that meth is indeed at least 5-6x more potent than amphetamine. You also have to take into account the rather inactive isomer that takes up a big chunk of the weight of typical amphetamine pills, but even pure d-amp i would say can't come even half as close to meth..I suppose it just depends where you get your source of info and subjective results certainly ensue.

No sir. Meth is not 5-6 times as potent as amphetamines. I promise you. I can't do 700mg of adderral but I can easily sit down and do half that in meth and if it were 5x6 as potent I would be doing in the grams of adderrall which is fucking impossible. Also from experience with both I'd also conclude that meth is roughly 1.5-2x as potent. Also u don't smoke adderral so there are other factors to consider as well but base potency is roughly around 2x maybe 2.5 at the most even if the meth is cut which most shit is pretty stepped on

 

[Tweakerflexer1]

I don't think comparing meth to.amphetamine is a valid comparison Amphetamine is a basic stimulant and speeds you up like espresso on steroids . It doesn't give you the euphoria of the dopamine rush , I have never hallucinated on amphetamine and unlike meth on amphetamines sex I can take or leave --total ambivalence . Stimulants promote getting things done . Meth induces a party .

 

[MadHatterMike]

I never measured dosages when I used and just nonstop used til gone..I experienced basically all your symptoms after a while gets worse it might be from long use over time..don't know how long u have used it but I did maybe a year strait and it ruined my brain then docs started me on antidepressants and I'm still on em now after 10-11 years.

 

[chicken hoagie]

No sir. Meth is not 5-6 times as potent as amphetamines. I promise you. I can't do 700mg of adderral but I can easily sit down and do half that in meth and if it were 5x6 as potent I would be doing in the grams of adderrall which is fucking impossible. Also from experience with both I'd also conclude that meth is roughly 1.5-2x as potent. Also u don't smoke adderral so there are other factors to consider as well but base potency is roughly around 2x maybe 2.5 at the most even if the meth is cut which most shit is pretty stepped on

It is possible. People ACTUALLY DO GRAMS OF BOTH METH AND AMPHETAMINE. Methamphetamine IS appr. 4x more potent than amphetamine, PLUS being an agonist of 5HT2A receptors, meaning it has psychedelic qualities. That, added with sleep deprivation will cause you to hallucinate. This is a drugs forum, where there are people like me who study pharmacology. Take our advice or get off the forum.

 

[chicken hoagie]

I never measured dosages when I used and just nonstop used til gone..I experienced basically all your symptoms after a while gets worse it might be from long use over time..don't know how long u have used it but I did maybe a year strait and it ruined my brain then docs started me on antidepressants and I'm still on em now after 10-11 years.

You're still on them and you still have a ruined brain because the medication they have you on is ruining your brain....

 

[chicken hoagie]

I don't think comparing meth to.amphetamine is a valid comparison Amphetamine is a basic stimulant and speeds you up like espresso on steroids . It doesn't give you the euphoria of the dopamine rush , I have never hallucinated on amphetamine and unlike meth on amphetamines sex I can take or leave --total ambivalence . Stimulants promote getting things done . Meth induces a party .

What do you think methamphetamine is? Its a psychostimulant just like amphetamine(adderall). Your own bias is what brings you to such silly conclusions. Meth to party? What kind of parties do you attend dude? Lmao.

This thread is filled with anecdotal nonsense.

 

[MadHatterMike]

^^ yeah been listening to the doctors about staying on them or stopping them..might end up getting off them..I have with the subs. Also I've started to taper over time to 100mg every other day to get where I'm use to taking much less.

 

[Antiprosynthesis]

I don't think comparing meth to.amphetamine is a valid comparison Amphetamine is a basic stimulant and speeds you up like espresso on steroids . It doesn't give you the euphoria of the dopamine rush , I have never hallucinated on amphetamine and unlike meth on amphetamines sex I can take or leave --total ambivalence . Stimulants promote getting things done . Meth induces a party .

Meth is an amp, just a metha amp.

I disagree, I get more euphoria out of snorting amp than smoking meth.

I believe it are similar stimulants, I hallucinate from amp always on a binge...

Peace